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Fuck all cops, but should we really be calling them bastards? (beehaw.org)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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ACAB is a common slogan, especially in anarchist spaces. Should we really be using it though? It is a reference to children born without their parents being married, and due to christian morality is seen as inherently negative. It is effectively a slur. Do we really think that trying to enforce the hierarchies we are trying to get away from on others is going to help us? How have we allowed this slogan to become so common?

As an anarchist I think we should be defending these people, not punishing them with the hope of some of that transferring to cops.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We're just retaking bastard as a slur to mean "murderous asshole" one step at a time.

It's very much an American saying, and Americans don't care about the other kind, don't think too much about it.

What bugs me about ACAB is that it's ultimately an attack on the only strong union in America, but it's not like those bastards have solidarity so w/e.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Police unions are not unions in the same way a workers union is a union. They exist to uphold state sanctioned violence and protect the perpetrators of said violence, not create a strong working class through solidarity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

reclaiming a slur means using it as a positive reference to the oppressed group, you are just using the slur

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That's fair. We're just stealing it from the fundies then.