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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Christ, I hope this is a troll.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Well, this happened to a 6-year-old. It's rough reading:

His opisthotonus worsened, and he developed autonomic instability (hypertension, tachycardia, and body temperatures of 97.0°F–104.9°F [36.1°C–40.5°C]). He was treated with multiple continuous intravenous medication infusions to control his pain and blood pressure, and with neuromuscular blockade to manage his muscle spasms. A tracheostomy was placed on hospital day 5 for prolonged ventilator support. Starting on hospital day 35, the patient tolerated a 5-day wean from neuromuscular blockade. On day 44, his ventilator support was discontinued, and he tolerated sips of clear liquids. On day 47, he was transferred to the intermediate care unit. Three days later, he walked 20 feet with assistance. On day 54, his tracheostomy was removed, and 3 days later, he was transferred to a rehabilitation center for 17 days.

The boy required 57 days of inpatient acute care, including 47 days in the intensive care unit. The inpatient charges totaled $811,929 (excluding air transportation, inpatient rehabilitation, and ambulatory follow-up costs). One month after inpatient rehabilitation, he returned to all normal activities, including running and bicycling. Despite extensive review of the risks and benefits of tetanus vaccination by physicians, the family declined the second dose of DTaP and any other recommended immunizations.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 3 months ago (3 children)

espite extensive review of the risks and benefits of tetanus vaccination by physicians, the family declined the second dose of DTaP and any other recommended immunizations.

God fucking damn it how the fuck are people this dumb?!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

This isn't dumb. This is psychotic.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

I feel like the family should be liable, and the child taken to a family that's not dangerously stupid.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

That makes me nauseous to read. I hope the hospital called CPS.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I am upset. I hope insurance denied their claim.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Honestly, if a health insurance provider finds out you’re antivax, they should have every right to drop you as a customer. It’s just too much risk on the insurance company’s part.

Or hell, the insurance companies could start tracking outbreaks to sue the antivaxers for damages. Because the antivaxers are intentionally putting others in harms way, which is increasing costs to the insurance companies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like that kid's life is hard enough without adding in abject poverty.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I like how you think those craptastic excuses for parents are ever gonna pay a dime of that bill.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Kinda low-key makes me wish for debtors prison. But just for these parents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Jezus fucking christ

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

All that pain and money and his parents didn't learn a damn thing...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Naw bro, everyone knows that bentonite clay and raw local honey will cure anything and with enough electricity you also get a boxed lunch.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pffft you youngsters with your fancy medicine. If he bleeds long enough THAT'LL KILL THE TETANUS.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No joke this is what an eight year old in one of my classes was saying many years ago. He was like "oh you just gotta get the blood all out" when it came to some cut he had. Another eight year old, looked over and sarcastically said, "Dr. <>" and rolled his eyes.

That's how stupid Facebook is, so stupid it's the glue chewer treating his own wound in a 3rd grade class.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

If the patient keeps bleeding for long enough they will eventually die, and if the patient dies then their illness dies with them. 100 percent success rate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'd say it is. Tetanus is bacterial. Its not caused by rust. The rusty nail method of transmission isn't from a nail in a building like the post. Its from barns: stepping on an exposed nail in the past often happened in old rotting barns where animals would have been kept. The bacteria would be in animal feces, and would be in the dust/dirt of the barn, which would coat old exposed nails; go deep in mostly anerobic tissue and the bacteria would infect the bloodstream.

A rusty nail in the city won't have cow shit dust on it, so no tenanus.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

Tetanus spores are in the dirt, everywhere, not just cow shit. The fear of rusty nails is because the wound needs to be relatively deep. It doesn't grow well in open wounds.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tetanus spores are pretty much everywhere, and can survive dormant for literal years. But it can’t survive in aerobic conditions after blooming, which happens when it comes into contact with blood. So surface cuts aren’t really an issue regardless of what caused it, because the bloomed spores will quickly die in contact with air.

The association with rust is because rust is historically very good at harboring tetanus spores; This is regardless of whether or not an animal has shit nearby recently. It has a lot of jagged surface area for the spores to hide in, and punctures from rust tend to be accidental and deep enough to force the spores into the anaerobic tissue. Again, this can happen in seemingly shit-free dirt, because the spores can survive for so long that they’re basically present everywhere that has dirt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Heh- no kidding.. thanks for that. The post still seems like bullshit though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My dad got it from inside a dirty house and cutting himself. You can get it from any wound from anything that has tetanus on it. Absolutely including a nail, rusty or otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

yes, I have been corrected a bunch of times on this, thank you. my take away is I should probably get a booster

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

so no tenanus

But what about nineanus?