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I’m new to the bidet scene, and this one has me slightly confounded. Should I install a new towel rack next to the toilet? Should my wife and I share the towel? Do you wipe first? There are so many unanswered questions in the ways of bidet-ing!

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For anyone with a sewer system built for TP, this is an ideal workflow. Poops and poopers are not identical, and bidets are not magical. Trust but verify, friends.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Pet peeve. Whatever three-quarters of the world seems to believe, any sewerage system can handle TP. That is: real TP has almost zero fiber integrity, it literally turns to goop on contact with water. Goop that has no more structural consistency than an average pile of sh*t. If still in any doubt then just make sure to flush it in single sheets, each one will be a pea-sized ball of goop. This misunderstanding seems to be purely cultural. I've been to a ton of developing countries, all with the usual dodgy sewerage systems and narrow-bore pipes. Yet only some of them, notably Latin America, have the disgusting cultural norm of TP bins. The rest understand that there is a difference between TP and paper towels designed for the kitchen and your face. TP is always flushable, by design.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago

And generally, baby wipes, bottom wipes and face wipes aren't safe to flush, even if they say flushable on the package. If they were safe to flush, you wouldn't be able to pull out a wet sheet from the package; it would be goo.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was natural, but it turns out TP is using PFAS so that it disintegrates as much as possible. That was kind of a bummer to learn. :/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wtf. Just looked this up and you're right. It seems like literally everything contains either toxic chemicals or plastics, unless you made it yourself without them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that was a bit depressing. The PFAS make it a lot more water soluble. My guess is that old TP didn't break down very well at all, and was kinda splintery (or at least more paper-y).

Luckily, the bidet removes much of that as long as you don't use TP. And for those that have bad pipes or a septic system, I think a bidet is an invaluable part of saving you lots of money, since you aren't packing extra material down the pipes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The cheap toilet paper can be submerged in water for like 48 hours before breaking down. So for many who only buy the cheapest, clogging pipes is a reality. Their own fault, but still.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I try not to blame individuals for the failure of systems, especially ones as exploitative and damaging as capitalism. Why blame the people who can only afford the cheapest toilet paper when you could blame the corporation that made the cheapest toilet paper clog toilets? The people with the least money have the most negative repercussions. How are they supposed to know it clogs toilets without having to learn the hard way? Why wouldn't you assume that toilet paper would all be equally safe to flush no matter how cheap it is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I mean you could always just wipe your ass, leave the TP in the bowl for like 48 hours, and then flush it, but then that kinda seems unsustainable unless everyone has their own toilet and only needs to poop every 48nhours which isn't gonna be the case in a poor country I bet.