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The thing that stinks is
A) the electoral college makes it so only 4 or 5 states really matter
B) there's an amnesia about trump from the never trump republicans. My dad is conservative but didn't vote trump. He thought he was an asshole. Now my dad talks about how Biden is crooked, and the only reason people hate trump is because, and his words, "orange man bad".
C) puritanical leftists have valid reasons to not like Biden, but they are willing to blow up the system as they always have. I say puritanical because I know there are pragmatic leftists who exercise restraint in their actions.
In 2020, the suburban vote was a critical win for Biden. I'm hoping for the best, but I'm starting to sit with the fact that Trump has a decent, if not likely, chance of winning in 2020.
C) is the one that is gonna be the razor's edge on this stuff. Reasonable people will vote for Biden, but it's the people that don't feel like voting will matter or people who are dying on the hill of a single issue who are potentially going to fuck us and the entire rest of the world by not voting.
I plan on voting for Biden because it's the right thing to do for all Americans and our allies, and I really don't want to be a tailgunner if Trump breaks up NATO and all the men get drafted for a world war to save Europe or Asia-Pacific again. Preventing assholes domestically and abroad from destroying peaceful countries would be nice.
Funny, because whenever we say "Biden should have done Y not X" you all say "If he hadn't then moderate democrats and some Republicans won't vote for him." They vote for him because they get what they want. Yet somehow we're unreasonable when we refuse to vote for him when we don't get what we want.
You're trying to hold leftists to a higher standard and it's bullshit.
It’s the exact same standard. Do you really think all votes for Trump are going to be from supporters? Most will be from Republicans who don’t want a Democratic President.
There’s a saying- Democrats need to fall in love, Republicans need to fall in line. It’s that mentality of inaction that causes us to regress as a nation every time a Republican takes office.
In response, Democratic candidates move closer to center to capture more of the active voters, having the exact opposite effect that is intended by abstention.
If it were the same standard then excusing Biden for catering to moderate voters because otherwise they'd abandon him would never happen. Either your reading comprehension is shit or you're just plain lying. Moderate Democrat voters are getting everything they want. Leftists are getting bread crumbs and talking about abstaining from voting. You should be going after Moderate Democrat voters for being greedy. Not telling leftists they need to shut up and be grateful they're getting bread crumbs.
The Electoral College has nothing to do with congressional elections.
The rest of your points can be addressed by providing information to those who are misinformed or disenfranchised. Abstaining may not be a vote for Trump, but it’s a refusal to stand in his way.
Right they're talking about Congress. There's still issues with districting though.
You vote for your Senators and House Representatives directly. The Electoral College has nothing to do with that.
Each state has two Senate seats, voted on statewide. Districting does not affect that vote.
Districting issues may make some votes less likely to make a difference in the House vote in specific districts in Republican states. That’s all the more reason to get as many Democrats to vote as possible.
The average Democratic voting representation for congressional elections is less than 50%. We constantly complain about the repercussions of our own inaction.