this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2023
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Yeah can't imagine why an instance admin might not want this insufferable piece of shit in their instance.
I bet it’s really spez, same energy
They need to start email verification. It will slow the trolls down.
Doesn't help too much, you can generate infinite email accounts with gmail for an example.
Manual acceptance of each and every user helps, but it's not sustainable.
Don't even need that, 1 click temporary email boxes everywhere
That's what I used.... I have no intention of being a troll or asshole, but I don't want social media like this platform linked to me IRL and never have.
Personally I just use a dumping ground email address. Just an address i use for any website I don’t particularly trust that I never look at unless I know there’s a confirmation email waiting for me
True, but a common thing websites do is block those domains, at least the easier to find ones. Nearly nobody blocks gmail.
You could block using + in a Gmail address.
Some sites do this and it's annoying. A better check is to compare the part before the + if it's Gmail.
Yeah, that's probably better.
You can add a
.anywhere in the username part of a GMail address.[email protected]is the same as[email protected]Whether or not Lemmy supports this at this point, I dunno, but it's easy enough to code your username verification to remove all +s and periods before continuing to ensure uniqueness.
Period can be removed with gmail emails. However, for +s, the whole part after + and before @ needs to be removed if removing+ as that part indicates the folder emails come to. Yet, the same issue would still remain for any Google Workspace emails as they also support + but doesnt end with gmail domain.
Ah yes, you corrected my logic on the +. Thanks for the added insight on the Google workspace.
That is not actually true. The + method works, but not the . method.
According to Google it works
Not if you filter out . and + in gmail addresses.
In any address. Most email services support + and a few support . as well.
I use .in my email addresses with no malicious intent
Sure but in gmail addresses, the dots are ignored, and anything after the + is also ignored. You can add as many dots as you want and will still go to the same address.
It has similar function as "+"
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] etc.
Maybe admins should restrict community creation for a few days.
Idk, seems like this is quite a pivotal time with an influx of users. Be a shame to have the potential growth in community go to waste.
True, but they could limit community creation to, say, five a day. That would be more than the vast majority of people would legitimately need.
Unfortunately that would mean that real communities wouldn't be created since that would be used up by someone creating spam communities. Though, maybe limiting the amount of communities that could be made by one account in a certain amount of time? What about verification by email (to send a coherent reason) to the admins to create a community.
I was meaning five per day for a given user. That's why I said that would be plenty for most individuals - most people aren't legitimately going to want to create more than five communities in a day, and for them it wouldn't be a hardship to wait a day for another five. But for people like this guy, trying to flood the instance with endless/pointless communities, it would cut that down to a manageable number.
Oh 😅 I'm sorry for misunderstanding. 5 communities per day in a week is 35 communities, which I also thought was a lot. Where do we send our suggestions to the admins though?
I asked that question a while back and was told to use their git site.
Counterpoint: we don't need growth if the cost is the destruction of a good thing. Guided growth is smarter and more sustainable especially when users like the subject of this post aren't unique. There are a lot of small, mean-spirited people out there who will take a dump all over everything the moment they can.
Growth for the sake of growth is why reddit and everything else crashes and burns.
Eeh, federated platforms add a lot more moving parts to the mix. Since there isn't a single Lemmy that is all of Lemmy, people can always move to another instance if this one goes to shit.
There are always going to be assholes who abuse the system, always. I agree with the other poster that now is a good time to get communities up and running. People like LMAO have nothing but time to be internet douchebags and find ways around the system.
An power user in this case still can MP admins, to ask the creation of the community "manually".
Yeah but do you want new users to see this sort of carnage?
That would be giving these assholes exactly what they want.
Maybe, but what's the alternative? Other trolls seeing this vulnerability and just letting it run?
I would venture that these assholes just want maximum carnage. Requiring admin approval for a few days while a fix is pushed would mitigate that carnage.
I mean, purging them likely isn't taking that much admin time?
One click, and bam, all their communities, usernames, etc. etc. are gone.
Idk, seems like this is quite a pivotal time with an influx of users. Be a shame to have the potential growth in community go to waste.
Verifying community creation wouldn't inconvenience users, though it will place a lot of work on the admins having to sift through spam. Limiting the amount of community creations would essentially mean that it will all be used up by spam communities, though.
He got his fee-fees hurt because others didn't like that he was trying to be a selfish asshole (shocking) so now he thinks it's justice to destroy a site and affect multiple people who didn't even do anything to him. 😂 jfc