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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Im not American but doesnt everyone usually vote to keep the worst out not the best one in?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Kinda... mostly because the best ones never become candidates. The parties push the candidates that serve the interests of the partys donors then try to convince the voters they actually care.

Most elections are a choice between two mediocre candidates.

With the current state of the Republican party, it's truly about getting more of them out of power. Unless you're a white Christofascist bootlicker.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (40 children)

I used to mainly vote third party as a protest vote for both sides to do better. Didn't matter the party, really.

I voted for Obama out of genuinely wanting him in office. I thought he was decent overall but he did disappoint me.

I voted for Biden purely to keep Trump out of office. Even so, I think Biden has largely been a better President than Obama was, though the Gaza/Israel thing is really testing that. I would love to have a more progressive choice, but any time I am disappointed in Biden, I just remind myself the alternative and I would crawl across a mile of broken glass to vote for him.

So I would anecdotally say this election is outside the norm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

So I would anecdotally say this election is outside the norm.

If you mean "unique in 240 years of American history" I agree.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

40% of voting-eligible Americans simply don’t vote at all.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

If you have a non proportional system where parties don't make coalitions, there's no other choice (unless you live in a region where a specific party always wins with a majority of the votes, then do what you want).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Wasn't the case with Obama, as one easy example

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, millennials voted for Obama because he genuinely inspired hope. Then we saw how he governed and it killed our entire generation's sense of hope.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Then you saw Biden being a better president than Obama because he was more experienced. Maybe the answer here is to pay more attention to what a politician does than what he says

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

LOL, if that were answer, then Biden would be judged on the anti-drug legislation he spearheaded in '84, '86, and '88 that gave us expanded sentences for possession, civil asset forfeiture, and the racist sentencing disparity between crack and powdered cocaine. He'd also be judged on the 1994 crime bill he co-authored that led to the largest increase in mass incarceration in 40 years. Oh, and let's not forget the time he teamed up with Robert Byrd, a Senator and Klansman, to pass anti-bussing legislation. Point is, Biden has benefitted a lot from people listening to what he says and forgetting what he's done.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Not true at all. Some of them are actively trying to get the worst one in.