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[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There’s definitely a considerable number of so called Democrats who find Republicans favorable to Progressives, which is utterly disgusting and a betrayal of their espoused values. Just like the loud progressive minority though, I’d like to think of them as a whiny minority that doesn’t reflect most people.

And yet in 2008, Obama won despite their efforts at sabotage. To hear centrists talk about it, anyone who so much as thought a positive thought regarding Bernie Sanders is solely responsible for Clinton's loss in 2016.

We should be able to safely ignore the pampered, spoiled centrists who threw a massive tantrum when they didn't get 100% of everything they wanted in 2008, and ignore progressives at our peril. We do the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I agree. I think the spoiled centrists are a smaller group than the progressives overall. And it's utterly foolish to blame progressives and Sanders for Clinton's loss in 2016. There were a myriad of issues which all came together, like Russian meddling and the Comey letter and her taking the blue wall for granted. These factors combined had more effect than progressive detractors.