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[–] [email protected] 172 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

It doesn’t matter the industry you’re in the Schmooze class will be there to make sure you have to bow to them.

It’s always hilarious how excited project managers are about sending their socially awkward developers to conferences like Pokémon off to battle

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 92 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Shyentist used Facts and Data

...

It's not very effective.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago

Bloviator uses "lie!"

"We'll be 100% self driving in a year!"

It was very effective!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

But also the customers

???

Profit

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

It's a lot different in academia vs industry for hard sciences. I currently work in industry, we have no options in the things we research but we are funded to the Moon. There is of course some amount of bowing we have to do in order to keep them quiet but that's about it.

In academia you have to secure your own funding constantly or your project just ends essentially. Academic institutions also look at metrics like impact factor and papers published/time that also effects the availability of funding. I know that people have had to stop pursuing doctorates due to funding issues. Politics in academia is notoriously horrendous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It’s always hilarious how excited project managers are about sending their socially awkward developers to conferences like Pokémon off to battle

I did this when I was a manager with the people who wanted opportunity for advancement. I prepared them and told them that getting comfortable public speaking and being around strangers and selling yourself are all critical components of being seen and respected by upper management when the time comes for me to fight for a raise or advancement.

Because the harsh truth is that you don't climb without being seen, and you're not seen unless you can speak publically and feel comfortable in your own skin. I've seen some deeply introverted people climb to great success but this is because they had a strange combination of extremely sharp skills in critical fields in the company, and they weren't shy, they were just quiet, when they did talk they shot back zingers and deadpan one-liners that made the people over them either laugh or shrivel.

So whatever "personality type" you think you have, you simply do not rise without playing SOME aspect of the social game, it will always be like this as long as we live in a capitalist society.