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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thought the original was Aramaic rather than Hebrew

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would make sense.

Although the Assyrian conquest of Palestine was extremely violent, the general lack of persecution of Jews under Assyrian rule allowed Jews to adopt Aramaic as a vernacular, eventually leading it to supplant Hebrew entirely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

https://medium.com/@samrlevitt/the-sociolinguistic-landscape-of-palestine-in-transit-jewish-language-shift-from-hebrew-to-aramaic-cf819e01f16a#:~:text=Although%20the%20Assyrian%20conquest%20of,it%20to%20supplant%20Hebrew%20entirely.

Section 2: The Aramaic Period (c. 722 BCE — 340 BCE) The conquest of Palestine by the Aramaic-speaking Neo-Assyrian Empire marks the beginning of a protracted language shift among Jews in the country from the use of Hebrew to Aramaic as their vernacular. This conquest took place over several decades and began in 722 BCE, solidifying Aramaic-speaking imperial control of Palestine until Alexander’s conquest in 340 BCE. This conquest was extremely violent and featured the deportation of thousands of Palestinian Jews, weakening the Hebrew-speaking community and allowing Aramaic to more easily permeate society. Although the Assyrian conquest of Palestine was extremely violent, the general lack of persecution of Jews under Assyrian rule allowed Jews to adopt Aramaic as a vernacular, eventually leading it to supplant Hebrew entirely. During Aramaic-speaking rule of Palestine, Aramaic became the High language and Hebrew the Low language among Palestinian Jews, pressuring Jews to adopt Aramaic in order to access socioeconomic benefits.

The Talmud is a central part of Judaism and is written in Hebrew and Aramaic. The Talmud is a record of rabbinic discussions about the Torah that took place in Jerusalem and Babylon between the 2nd and 5th centuries CE, with the final record being complete by the 5th century. The Talmud is divided into two versions: the Babylonian Talmud, which is compiled around 500 CE, and the Jerusalem Talmud, which is compiled around 400 CE, but is much shorter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So which did you read? The Babylonian Talmud, which is incredibly long, or the Jerusalem one?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Babylonian. It's where we get to learn about how the Jews view Mary.. a whore. And Jesus boiling in excrement. And how to treat goyim/gentile.. like slaves. And killing them without consequence. Steal from them. Deceive them. etc.. etc.. Granted different rabbis, different times.. but rabbis are held with high regard. Disrespecting a rabbi, even when he's in the wrong, is like disrespecting God. As if they're held in higher regard than the Prophets. Talmud teaches Jews - its practitioners, loopholes, as if they they can trick or bypass God and what He commands of them.

I know you're trying to find a way to prove I'm full of chit... but the Abrahamic religions and history are two subjects that I don't take lightly.

Mods: This is not anti-semitic. It's just examples directly from the Talmud. Presenting these examples are not ill intended but simply informative. Take it or leave it, it doesn't effect me one bit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, no, not trying to be oppositional at all, just interested. Sorry if I made it look the wrong way. I've read parts of the Babylonian Talmud, not the whole thing, and I would agree with your points. Not to mention the parts like those where they act like demons are real things that exist, and prescribe a method for how to see them.

Interestingly, lots of the differences between the new and old testament are also differences between the Torah and the Talmud, eg demons, heaven and hell, interpreting the biblical laws differently (although obviously the new testament takes it much further).