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Many voters believe, with good reason, that none of this would have happened without Biden’s assent. Biden has continued to speak of Israel’s attack on Palestinian civilians using the absurd language of “self-defense”. He has insulted Jewish Americans and the memory of the Holocaust by invoking them to justify the slaughter. And though his White House repeatedly leaks that he is “privately” dismayed by Israel’s conduct of the war, he has done little to stop the flow of US money and guns that support it.

Even after the US state department issued a vexed and mealy-mouthed report on Israel’s conduct, which nevertheless concluded that it was reasonable to assess that Israel was in violation of international humanitarian law, the Biden administration has continued to fund these violations. That state department report was published on 10 May. The Biden administration told Congress that it intends to move forward with a $1bn arms sale to Israel. “OK, [Israel] likely broke the law, but not enough to change policy,” is how one reporter summarized the administration’s judgment. “So, what is the point of the report? I mean, in the simplest terms, what’s the point?”

Meanwhile, Biden has expressed public disdain for the Americans – many of whom he needs to vote for him – who have taken to protest on behalf of Palestinian lives. Speaking with evident approval of the violent police crackdowns against anti-genocide student demonstrations, he said coolly: “Dissent must never lead to disorder.”

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if this isn't overblown propaganda. Personally, and I know this is just my experience, but I've never met a person who isn't a Trump supporter who isn't voting for Biden. I'm sure they exist, and I want to keep seeing stories like this to encourage Biden to do better, and scare moderates to make sure they show up in November.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Republicans vote for their candidate and against their opponents. Democrats historically only show up in support. Just look at the 2016 election.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My far left friend wrote in Bernies name in 2016.

He did not play stupid games in 2020, and I suspect in 2024, though I haven't talked to him about it.

As left as he is, he has known what another Trump presidency means since 2021 with no ambiguity. Anyone pretending otherwise at this point isn't arguing in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

^ THIS. I'd so much rather be voting for a Bernie right now, but the reality is...there are two choices, and that is it. Not voting for Biden is helping Ronald McDonald.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's not propaganda. Look through the replies to my comment already someone came out with black and white thinking concerning evil (no such thing as the lesser of two).

I remember being this idealistic when I was younger. I met a lot of young minorities during 2020 who didn't vote because they didn't feel represented by either old white guy.

Now we have young white people feeling the same because they're seeing the horrors of neo liberalism playing out and they don't understand what fascism is (it's what Israel is doing, so yeah, voting for Trump is a vote for more genocide but whatever...).

And, the DNC is going to blame voter apathy if they lose. And honestly, this could be a repeat of 2016. Democrats ignoring the will of the people and handing Trump the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That’s exactly what’s going to happen.

Why show up when all that is going to happen is us being ignored?