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I kept burning my food or wait forever for the pan to heat up and I finally understand why. Each knob has a different direction for the Hi and Lo (also why isn’t it Low).

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm really trying to understand what's going on here in a way that makes sense, even if it's a twisted kind of sense.

My best guess is that each of these burners are a different size and some have multiple rings and that by turning the knob left (Anti-clockwise), you're going from smaller number of rings to larger number of rings - however, the rings start at their highest heat level. So looking at the bottom right dial as an example, the first "Notch" on the left is the smallest burner on the highest setting, then as you turn left more, it'll dial down that burner until you get to the second ring on the burner - starting at full power for that second burner and continuing to lower power until you get to the 3rd ring, then it's same again for the 4th ring.

Is that right? am I even close? I don't understand why you'd go from smallest burner to highest burner anti-clockwise, but go from lowest burner-power to highest clockwise. That still doesn't make sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's pretty much exactly how it is.

OP's stove is GCRE3060AF, or similar. The rightmost knob is inconsistent for reasons I cannot fathom, unless there is some obscure electrical reason. It is an electric stove, and the knobs with multiple ranges do indeed control burners that have multiple potential sizes. One of them has two selectable sizes, and other has three. On these I believe the rationale is that the high setting is the closest and most easily accessible because radiant electric ranges suck [citation not needed] and since they take forever and a day to heat up most users will just leap right to the full blast output setting immediately. I have no idea why the direction on the last knob is backwards from the others, clockwise versus counterclockwise, but it is.

If you're morbidly curious, you can view the entire control panel from OP's stove (or one similar) here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also seems mildly infuriating to reach across whatever you are cooking to handle the knobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t decide if I prefer this (my stove is this way) or bumping the knobs with my hips.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My stove has the front knobs, it's gas, and it's been bumped on accidentally more than once and someone else walks into the kitchen and has the horrifying realization that the kitchen smells like gas. I think I prefer the electric stove I had as a kid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's why modern gas stoves have safety valves. There's a temp sensor near the burner which automatically shuts the gas off if the burner isn't lit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I nearly burned myself the other day doing this on my stove. Put the damn knobs down on the front!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a choice. We have a young kid who loooves touching buttons and turning knobs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's fair and relatable. My kid keeps turning on the oven and turning off the dishwasher. Our stove has touch controls on the surface that he hasn't figured out quite yet, but since it's an induction stove it turns off pretty quickly if nothing is on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Our dishwasher has buttons on the i side. You need to open the door to control it. Then when you close it it looks clean with no buttons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

hahaha, amazing!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. It’s. GCRE3060AFF electric stove. (Other thing I hate is the fan noise when the oven is on, even when not on convection). Your idea of Hi closest to off position makes sense except of that triple knob, the 3rd ring Hi position isn’t at the top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you Google the fan being on all the time? Ours (different model) doesn't do that and they really shouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has to do with keeping the internal circuit boards cool so they don’t overheat due to the heat from the oven. We had a stove that did that too. I hated that thing. It would roar like a jet engine for about 30 minutes even after you turned the oven off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US kitchen appliances are so weird and bad. I don’t get why your stuff doesn’t progress like over here in EU. We get the cleanest, modern, most silent kitchen setups ever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because you can make a larger profit by keeping the same design and parts on a crap product and charge you an inflated premium vs selling you a good product with decent R&D and testing. If it’s all crap you can’t tell you’re being fucked. Same thing with sliding guillotinée windows and health insurance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably due to the knob itself and the configuration of the leads coming off of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure there's a lazy engineer reason. But as someone who does engineering semi-professionally, come on! You don't skimp out on UX just because it's easier to make it this way! There is a reason why Murphy's Law exists! And in this case it's actually a fire hazard!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a UX designer who became an appliance salesman, I challenge you to invent better UX for these features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, for starter. Pick a direction for Lo -> Hi either clockwise or counterclockwise and stick to it.

The rotating knob is great. Haptic feedback. You can see it’s off at a clan r from afar. It’s not an encoder but a potentiometer so each position always has the same function hard coded. Just make them all turn in the same direction.

I would chose counter-clockwise as it’s easier to turn it that way for a right handed person (and that’s how the single burners are designed, all 3 of them (although the warm zone has a weird dead zone for some reason). Start on Lo until it gets to Hi then for multiple ring ones when you hit ring_1 hi and continue you get to ring_2 Lo and so on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It takes like 5 seconds to heat up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes they’re rings. Still doesn’t explain why not everything is in the same rotational direction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is this, a space age analog computer?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’s what I’m thinking, the different burners have different rings that are individually controlled