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Bill Barr says Trump often suggested executing rivals in heated White House outbursts
(www.independent.co.uk)
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and yet when pressed, "the Biden administration's liberal agenda" is worse than anything - ANYTHING - Trump ever did.
fucking shill.
The worst part about this, besides all the other parts, is that the Biden administration is defending against this, like "Nuh-uh, We don't even have a liberal agenda!"
I wish Biden was the progressive that conservatives pretend he is.
I vote for the party that wants to protect abortion rights. It would take quite a lot for me to vote for any anti-abortion Republican. I think Trump-level disrespect for democracy from the hypothetical Democrat would be enough to change my vote, but I'm not sure some people I know would vote for the Republican even then. Would expecting Republicans to vote for Biden be a double standard in this context?
(What this doesn't explain is why Trump was so overwhelmingly popular in the primaries.)
My dad used to say, and this was back in the Bush era, that the wort Democrat was better than the best Republican, and I still can't argue with that.
That's generally true, but not in the hypothetical. I'd honestly vote for Mitt Romney before I'd vote for hypothetical Democrat-Ticket Trump.
My dad used to say “There’s too many Mexicans coming around my shop, I have to shoo them away with a rake.” I loved him for a lot of reasons, but that was not one.
It's ridiculously close, though, considering that the GOP has literally become a fascist party..
Maybe if they could articulate what it was they disliked about Biden without using some generic "open borders" nonsense.
What has given you the impression that Dems actually want to protect abortion rights though? They want women's bodily autonomy to be under threat because it drives donations and voting for their corporate fat-sacks.
Democrats would be utterly at a loss if they actually legislated abortion rights. It's why the Obama admin suddenly wasn't in the mood when they got a super majority.
What solid abortion rights exist right now have been achieved by every day citizens getting it put on as ballot initiatives and forcing it into their state constitutions themselves.
Vote Dem, sure, but don't labor under the illusion they want to put an end to the abortion issue for good.
Well, I would have said something similar about Republicans but then the dog actually caught the car, so to speak, and they managed to get Roe v. Wade overturned despite the fact that doing that is now predictably hurting them at the polls.
You mean that 60 days when they got healthcare reform passed?
Abortion wasn't their top priority at the time because there was other shit to worry about.
"Healthcare reform"
Are you talking about the republican crafted bill that forced everyone to buy private insurance and if they couldn't afford it get billed $700-$1000? That "healthcare reform"?
The one, solitary good thing that came out of the Trump presidency was him repealing that mandate.
That law, had it been passed, would have been repealed the moment the R's had the majority during Trump's first two years. It would have been pointless, especially since abortion was then legal.
As you essentially noted, it requires a constitutional amendment to make it harder to overturn, and you know plenty of states would not sign off on that.
Then let them try to repeal it. There's literally no cost to passing it.
There was also literally no cost to repealing it. They would have done so, right before they passed the huge tax cuts for the rich. There would have been no "try"; it would have been repealed about 2 minutes after everyone was sworn in.
Repealing a law is as easy as passing a law.
I see, so Democrats shouldn't try to legislate bodily autonomy because the Republicans will just undo it if they get a majority one day.
Fucking idiotic.
Okay I've tried to be civil, but you're obviously not doing the same. My point, since you seem unable to grasp it, is that it even if they had it would have been repealed and nothing would be different now. Is that so difficult to understand?
I'm blocking you. I'm looking for real conversation, not people intentionally missing the point so they can stay angry at whatever boogeyman.