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TRIGGER WARNING: We have people self immolating because of genocides happening and because people are losing housing.
(lemmy.world)
@Jaybefaunt
TRIGGER WARNING: We have people self immolating because of genocides happening and because people are losing housing. This nation is going down and it's the greed of the capitalists that's the cause.
I'm basically in that elderly gentleman's shoes as far as housing goes. I'm sorry to his family and to him for being pushed into this situation.
@weareronin47
Elderly man self-immolates while being evicted.
Housing is a human right.
Direct link to video: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1775547959775502338/pu/vid/avc1/640x360/8Bhf9UQdY6pfh4gx.mp4
Source: https://twitter.com/Jaybefaunt/status/1775639781868720573
I imagine getting kicked out of your home to live on the street at 80+ would do wonders for your mental health.
So you agree, the self-immolation was a reflection of a mental health crisis, and the eviction was a trigger?
What do you get out of this interaction?
You're a beacon of light. I'm getting absolutely nothing out of this, good point.
Fuck you're toxic. Please leave the dialog to the people arguing both in good faith and with some eloquence and just go smug yourself off in a dark room somewhere where we don't have to see to this self-indulgent wankery.
I particularly got less out of this than anything prior.
The fact that your entire tone shifted to one of aloof denial and 'masterful intentionality!' after this suggests that it actually hit you quite close to home. You clearly had been hedging around the issue, and people have been attempting to engage you in good faith instead of calling you out to your face. It's hard to deny the impression your comments give when you're getting ratio'd on lemmy though. That's... that's rough. Your initial point about mental health was founded from a perspective that we can all understand, but you didn't factor in what a huge effect material concerns have on a person's mental health. The two are very linked, and for any one of a thousand possible reasons, you just missed the mark.
And that's okay.
You're letting yourself be ruled by an unfounded anxiety about your own intellectual inferiority and you're sensitive to any flaws in your reasoning or arguments as a result - that's why you were trying so hard to use clarification to adjust the initial meaning of your statement. I wanna assure you that from even a brief read of your comment history nah, you're plenty intelligent. I doubt you have many concrete indications in your life to point to, which is okay those will come in time.
But you're going to be a happier person if you can learn to accept and admit that you were wrong. My kneejerk reaction to things like this is to do exactly the same thing you're doing, and I spent a good portion of my youth being the same kind of commenter-that-claims-they-were-a-troll-all-along as you are, and I was miserable. Letting you in on a secret here though: People estimate the intelligence of an individual who's admitted their fault to be much higher than someone that sticks to a clearly flawed argument and argues from the ego until the fire in their metaphorical cave has burned down to embers. It's a basic trick of actual social manipulation (instead of the bush league tricks image board trolls rely on), and it's never failed me. Maybe it'll work for you too.
Tldr?
Lmfao, you forreal? Is this what passes for bait nowadays? Christ, fine, have a pity nibble. But dude, this is just embarrassing. Up your game.
What about a complete stranger who thinks you probably don't/didn't get enough attaboys from mom n pop? Did their lack of love cause you to enjoy any attention at all, like a child acting up in class? Is the derision of strangers that exciting, where youd beg for it like this to someone who clearly looks down on you?
At this point I'm only responding because it's perplexing (and admittedly somewhat affirming) how angry this has made some of you. And how weird it is that you're giving me attention, while in the same breath accusing me of needing attention.
Honestly? Because i don't lie to myself. We both get off on attempting to annoy people, but perhaps you are uncomfortable admitting it. My personal targets are trolls, people just like you, that i feel need a good lesson in humility.
Sometimes it works, sometimes i get a funny response. Sometimes they're unreachable, or at least pretend well enough. and i think youre probably that second one. I won't get the response that will satisfy me, so ill just find someone else that ll scratch that itch
Eviction caused a mental health crisis which resulted in self immolation (you can also insert any negative outcome at this point).
You have invented a "hierarchy" of cause and effect that is backwards.
The correct order of operations is: Event happens that forces a mental health crisis in an individual, which can have various results (sometimes immolation).
Some people with mental health issues may be in a near perpetual state of mental health crisis. This is the only type of situation where you'd be correct and anything could be a trigger. This is absolutely not the standard, but you assert that it is, which is why you are wrong.