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Many subs are already opening up again sadly.
It still looks pretty bad (in a good way): https://reddark.untone.uk/
Almost 7,000 subs private, including many of the biggest ones. This is by no means letting up.
It will be interesting to see where things stand in a few days and whether it’s causing ongoing pain to Reddit. I doubt they will comment until and if there’s a risk of ongoing, widespread blackouts.
True but I see the number of closed subreddits getting lower each time I look at that page.
I think a lot of them are either going to be support subs (like stopdrinking), or they will be subs asking their users what they should do.
The modcoord subreddit is full of support for continued protest
Yep, we opened up, polled the users, got told to keep it closed, and down went the shutters.
I see major subs like /r/gaming, /r/todayilearned/, /r/space opening up but they're not asking their users what to do :(
Between this comment and my last at least 25 subs have opened up again. Even while typing this one opened up.
Huh? Last I checked r/gaming was asking for user feedback on whether they should remain closed and the comments look like a resounding "yes".
When/where?
Here
Interesting that the "best" algorithm is favoring a comment from 3 hours ago with 8 upvotes in of staying open vs one from 4 hour ago with 200 upvotes in favor of staying closed. That's absolutely not how the "best" algorithm used to work
Force openings
Has that been confirmed yet? I saw one person saying it was happening, but the comments below proved they were wrong, and then they scratched out their comment and apologized for spreading false info.
I saw another post with screenshots
You mean this one right? https://famichiki.jp/@Tsutsuku/110537730270070245
Reddit's CEO is a vile PoS
undefined> https://reddark.untone.uk/
Would be great if more of those communities moved to the fediverse :')
They are either coming or we'll have to create them. I see no way forward with Reddit. Anyone who's for Reddit deserves to stay in that cess pit run by spez now. Bridges have been burnt.
Oh my, I expected a few thousand to go up after an hour or two but a few big ones are even still down this is great :D
The subs going dark should have only been half of the protest. Users should have also stayed away from the site but I don't think that was really coordinated.
The number of new posts didn't drop much, the comments dropped a bit more but only by like 20%, which isn't a lot given the amount of subs that went dark. Reddit doesn't care about subs, they care about users and it seems engagement was still pretty high.
The next protest should be to all users to stop using the site. Drop the users and they'll start to listen.
Before asking people to leave, subs creator should create similar communities on Lemmy
Exactly this. A long term blackout, especially a user blackout, is not feasible without a replacement place to go to.
I'm pretty sure none of them thought about that because they're basically just doing this out of anger. They know it won't change reddits decision so they want to take it away from all the users that don't really care about third party apps or mod tools.
Create coordinated groups on lemmy and dump all comments in the sub they mod. Sure, Reddit could restore, but it would be just one more hassle for their IT staff
leaving this in lieu of lemmy gold.
I tried to do my part and heavily restricted my visits to the site. I checked the state of my feed and user profiles a select few times but always left almost immediately.
I even redirected my reddit browser bookmark to a local website which acted as a warning wall, just to stop me from my subconsciously opening and browsing the site.
I did similar, I swapped my shortcuts/apps for ones going to Lemmy. The muscle memory has worked in my favour.
Honest question, (I don't expect you to know) how many of those were some form of bot?
Nobody really knows, but I personally don't think there were any more bots on Monday than there was a week earlier. It's a nice story that users dropped with the subs going dark, but I think it might be wishful thinking on our part. To my knowledge there's zero evidence to suggest that they were mostly bots.
The submissions remaining steady while comments dropped off a cliff is eyebrow raising, however given how much the site struggled to handle so many private subs from a technical perspective, I strongly suspect reddit didn't really do much ahead of the blackout. I think the steady submissions compared to the decreased comments tell us more about an average day of reddit how many submissions are bot submitted than it tells us about a change in bot behavior that day.
Indeed. Users should have joined in. I did my part at least, I haven't used the site in days and I've also removed all of my comments and submissions.
Yeah when the blackout started I disabled my Reddit app and haven't been back there once since. We need more people doing this.
I went back to post on the "We're back from the Blackout" posts to go let them know about the new communities that were started up here.
I did that for a few that I'm interested in and got downvoted immediately. There's definitely some bot like activity trying to flood content/organic growth on the communities polling/figuring out what's next, so that users would flock back. They are also pushing back on alternatives when a good ol person would be just curious/happy/relieved that there's some semblance of carry-over away from Reddit.
I think a non-insubstantial amount of the comment activity was bots to be fair.
So, a substantial amount? :D
Medium-substantial. Midstantial?
I think this is true but I think it has always been the case. The question is were there more bots than usual and I'm unconvinced there was.
Wall the subs I liked were dark anyways so opening my app showed super old posts that were cached or blackout notices. Couldn't go back of I tried
Reddit admins are starting to boot mods and force open subs. Total desperation move
Fuck Reddit. Fuck /u/spez.
I think they're seriously underestimating the work mods did in the bigger subs
Has that been confirmed yet? I saw one person saying it was happening, but the comments below proved they were wrong, and then they scratched out their comment and apologized for spreading false info.
if it’s not happening yet it’s inevitable.
I am just waiting on r/askhistorians. Whatever they do next I will follow.
edit: i should clarify that if they decide to stay on reddit, then probably my reddit user will become an askhistorians lurker.
Honestly it is one of, if not the most, valuable communities on reddit. The fact that it just exists makes me feel a sense of wonder.
It's the most valuable for me for sure, and I love everything about it. They're back but currently restricted. I'm really curious about what is their next step.
IIRC, they said they were going to stay restricted so it could be an archive.
Reddit's down for me lmao