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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Mike Mentzer already trained while on heavy doses of amphetamines in the late 70s, and the original Jack3d formula from over a decade ago contained DMAA (dimethylamylamine). So hard pre workouts have been a thing in the subculture for quite a while. It's just usually that amphetamines or amphetamine like substances are used instead of alcohol.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I vaguely remember hearing about one of the first doping fatalities in Tour de France where a contestant dropped dead on his bike from ingesting a cognac-based concoction of every stimulant known to man.