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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

All I can say is that, I started using Jabber before GTalk federation, but ultimately Google made me leave Jabber.

What actually happened is that some friends who originally were on Jabber switched to GTalk, because later Google added it to Gmail, making it more convenient.

So essentially when they defederated, my network was pretty empty.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was Google's GTalk not Facebook's Messenger.

Facebook never needed Jabber for their messenger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google effectively killed XMPP this way. During the time the federation was working the protocol essentially stood still, because they were afraid of breaking GTalk. Once GTalk gained enough momentum Google just pulled the plug.

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, if you wear BLM shirt you are telling everyone you care about racism and discrimination, if you wear Nazi shirt you telling everyone that you believe white race is superior to everyone else.

What's so hard to get? Why I can't assume your views when you are going out of your way making it obvious to everyone what your political stance is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's a good point. I was assuming there was no tampering with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was not talking about wearing a kind of clothing, but specific clothing showing your political and ideological of someone ways clothes with 1488 I will treat them like the Nazi he is.

Anyway OP said he was just wearing non MAGA red hat. So in that case I agree that was overreaction. In fact would prefer people did that so the association would disappear. I originally thought OP was taking about actual MAGA hat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, sorry then. That's indeed overreaction. I thought it was an actual MAGA hat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While this is true with Facebook, Twitter, YouTube I think reddit algorithm wasn't designed that way.

The three sites I mentioned don't have option to downvote (well, YouTube removed it recently) this is purposefully done so anything that is controversial will drive engagement. People like to show disapproval, since there's no downvote in case of Facebook they will likely use the laughing emoticon or write a nasty comment, in case of Twitter or YouTube they will do the same. There is activity, those posts will be promoted and engaging even more people.

In reddit you could downvote a comment or even report it to moderators. The comment it will make it go to the end of the list and even collapse it. If moderator gets involved the comment will be even removed and a nasty user possibly banned.

This actually moderates the community. I noticed that on reddit the most hateful communities actually need moderators to tip the scales in the other direction.

This is why I'm not fully convinced that beehaw.org and tildes.net made a good choice blocking downvotes, as this requires more work from the moderators and prevents community to moderate itself. Though at least tildes.net has labels, which maybe do this function.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's this: https://youtu.be/tR_6dibpDfo and we are all being manipulated to not trust our institutions and to fight with each other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

just wearing the wrong colored hat or having the wrong skin color

the first thing is something what you can easily change and when wearing it, you're telling everyone who you really are, the second thing is something you are born with. It is silly comparing those two.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole fiasco motivated me to create mastodon account. The crazy thing is that I never used Twitter.

Also I don't get why people are complaining that mastodon is difficult. It seems to me is quite simple, or am I missing something?

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