sleepyTonia

Three meats with some hot sauce (Like red hot, sriracha or spicy tomato salsa) on top in thin crust. But pizza is pizza.

I gave it an actual try and it's fine for intermediate users, but leaves much to desire out of the box for a regular person. No printer support out of the box... It's disabled by default, gotta install cups and enable it manually through systemctl if you skip that in the installer. And of course, most people would. Bluetooth is also turned off by default (Systemctl again) Samba 's turned off by default (Systemctl and package installation again, as well as some extra steps in the terminal) and it of course didn't come with a base Samba config file, which is required.

Manjaro's got a reputation and people love to hate it... But it doesn't have those issues and aside from the cases where you would absolutely need it on the most user-friendly distros, you don't need to ever touch the terminal on it. Pamac works really well, shows up as "Install and update programs" in the launch menus, supports native packages, AUR, Flatpak and Snap... and looks good to people who don't get angry at the sight of a CSD window. I use the AUR fairly frequently and have encountered essentially zero cases where a package wouldn't build on my system because of some Manjaro-specific issue in the past five years.

Edit: And for the record, I would recommend PopOS for anyone looking to use a stable Linux computer with up to date drivers and no nonsense. Arch based distros are good for tinkerers and I'd only recommend them to people who like fixing things and want full control.

Man... At this point we really should actively be telling people to stay the hell away from Ubuntu. This is some M$Windows levels of sneaky and borderline malicious behavior.

Where did the duckduck go?

I'm sure EndeavourOS is perfectly fine for the people who work on it and their core user base. That's not my issue. It's still happily running on my laptop. I just keep on seeing people say "Don't use Manjaro, use EndevourOS! It's much better." But your average computer user would lose their shit at having to deal with those ^ issues. "You just had to enable it at installation if you wanted printing. You didn't see the checkbox?! Oh mah gaaa" ...Seriously? It's not a checkbox to turn it back on if you miss it and should be opt-out to begin with. Are you going to tell me CUPs is a significant memory/storage drain and a gaping vulnerability in a residential network? If one's not familiar with Linux, CUPS, pacman and Systemd it's a huge headache for most people to get this working.

I just think that EndeavourOS shouldn't be presented as a Manjaro alternative for your average person, when it's an opinionated Arch-based distro with spotty defaults aimed at somewhat experienced Linux users that want nitty-gritty control over their system. (Users which, again, might as well be using vanilla Arch if that's fun or important to them) And it has some weird update/mirror manager that prevented me from just using pacman to update my system at one point and I had to figure out whatever it was they wanted me to use. Never had this kind of crap happen to me in Manjaro. Nor was printing disabled by default. Nor were network shares hard to get working.

And in my case, I kinda don't like Endeavour OS. I installed it on my laptop to try it out a couple months ago. It looked to me like a convenient no nonsense installer for Arch with some nice defaults, then you stumble on their custom update/mirror manager nonsense. Then you want to use a printer and realize they left CUPS disabled, as if to give you an "excuse" to use systemctl. Then if you want to use Samba, you need to go out of your way to find a default config file. I've had to jump through more hoops and dealt with more quirky nonsense than with Manjaro stable on that distro.

It's like it doesn't know who this is meant for. People who want their hand held through a GUI for something basic as updating their system, or people who love writing their own config file for everything.

Might as well install Arch, really.

-Other happy Manjaro user

... I'm a little sad this isn't an actual community.
Edit: Nevermind, found it~ (Scroll down)

Bah... Le monde penchant vers la droite a souvent tendance à voter auto-destructivement, donc ça fait du sens...

No, but not providing them with personal information like one's email, address, name, phone number or social media accounts, and not screaming "I live within # km of xxx!" by accessing their website with your actual IP address? That kinda helps. Plus, they're definitely blocking any reports made from out of state at this point.

"Didn't used to".

Yeah, I've been on Plasma 6 with my Manjaro Unstable desktop. Not a terrible experience and I've yet to encounter an AUR package giving me problems, aside from outdated ones. Honestly, I've given Endeavour OS a try on my laptop and will be switching it back to Manjaro when I find the time. It's a fine distro, but it feels like it tries to give you an excuse to "bust out the terminal" once in a while... Which isn't my thing anymore.

Not only is this a really interesting idea, this has to be one of the most beautifully written and structured bash scripts I've ever seen. I'll give it a try later!