markipol

joined 1 year ago
 

I was actually somewhat ok with going back to certain Reddit communities (although NOT just mindless scrolling) after the blackout. There's a lot of communities where (I thought) there's literally no alternatives.

Then came his latest wave of interviews attacking people that did their jobs for them (mods, Devs making a usable mobile app) and making insane hypocritical statements about "democracy" (everyone would gladly kick you out given the chance) and "landed gentry" (dude, if the mods are the out of touch landed gentry, that would make you the out of touch king, right?)

Why is he still giving interviews? Not like I even care about the company but seriously what good can he possibly do at this point, every day thousands more people leave for good.

Anyway, I seriously don't think I can use Reddit with a clear conscience, at all, anymore, at least for now. Every time I interact with the site (even with adblock) I can't help but think the entire time I am helping this millionaire megalomaniac's company keep continuing on.

I guess there's always the chance the board is letting him self destruct to offer him as the sacrificial lamb.

I honestly don't know if this will last in terms of me not using reddit at all, but every day this idiot opens his mouth is another day I'm not using reddit and another day I'm searching for and interacting with alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Firefox mobile with uBlock origin is a fucking godsend, the mobile web is nigh unusable without it because of ads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, honestly whether or not they back down or some solution is reached regarding the current situation, they will not stop aggressively monetizing users. A lot of veteran users will leave, some will stay or come back eventually, but I think pretty much every veteran user will be gone permanently if they get rid of old Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"no revenue impact so far" how is it possible to be this short sighted? Of course people using the official app and website without adblock won't have gone anywhere. It wasn't every subreddit, they're probably just wondering why so many aren't working. But if this continues, and tbh the damage is already done for a lot of people, users and moderators who generate the content and make the site usable for the zombies will leave and it will just become twitter 2.0, an increasingly bad shitshow, some subreddits will be left with no quality submissions at all.

Also: "still in conversation" with other third party apps? The entire point was to make the price so high they'd have to shut down. Plausible deniability I guess, and those other third party apps with way less users will probably just be able to sell subscriptions (can't even use ads, though)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is what I keep thinking. Most people don't contribute at all, and there's "power submitters" who do most of the posts and top comments. With them gone, who's actually gonna make content for people to view?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not gonna lie I think I'm actually spending more time on Lemmy than Reddit, participating and trying to get discussions going, making content, etc. Just to try and get it active lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same. I'm done just being a content/ad zombie for them

 

It can go one of a few ways.

  1. Apart from the few subs that remain offline, it'll basically be back to normal. Those that do remain offline indefinitely just get forcibly reopened or recreated by admins, especially huge subreddits like /r/videos. Smaller ones just get redicted to /r/topicnew or some other creative name.

  2. A lot of subreddits and more importantly moderators and users leave the site permanently. In order for this to happen however, there'd have to be a consensus alternative, which there isn't ATM. Otherwise, these communities are pretty much lost forever unless the mods put a message to go to X alternative service in the "subreddit is private" banner. Tbh, I don't think people are gonna stomach losing years of their lives in an instant so they'll just re create subreddits unless the mods provide an alternative.

No matter what though, they're not backing down on the effective removal of the API (still leaving the sneaky clause "you can pay us if you want but it'll be a king's ransom" for AI, even though they can just trawl the web manually lol). They'll probably announce some crappy customization features to hoodwink those who don't know what an API is and lie to them and say it's "API v2" or whatever.

I just honestly don't know how it's going to shake out and I'm scared im going to lose these communities. I don't give a single solitary fuck about Reddit the company anymore, and I never did really. I just hope all of the subreddits find a new home and don't just shrug their shoulders and say "welp, guess that's it guys".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think another major miscalculation is there was no alternatives agreed on by consensus. For example, if they had said to everyone "go to Lemmy", "go to discord" etc. Now there's no alternative to a lot of subreddits, people will just wait it out and go back to the subreddits when they go back, or if they're indefinitely suspended they'll just make new subreddits.

 

it is genuinely hard to believe how it could have gone worse