Gradual shit to multipolarity continues, the US becomes even more embarrassing
no please pay attention to meeeee
Lemmygrad gonna become blue MAGA?
Pets, really
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/09/18/most-americans-support-local-police-including-blacks-and-latinos/70893299007/ Popular support for police remains high
From that article: "In 2020, Americans' confidence in the police fell to a record low, driven in part by a growing racial divide on the issue, according to a Gallup poll conducted in the weeks after George Floyd was murdered by police officers in Minneapolis. About 48% of Americans said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in police that year. That figure increased in 2021, but fell to 43% in 2023, according to Gallup's annual Confidence in Institutions poll."
Immigration
A few percentage points on "how much immigration" does not demonstrate what you're saying it does. 2020 was historic highs for immigration support, so although it came down from there, it's much better than it was 20 or even 10 years ago.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/30/1216121806/anti-asian-american-discrimination-pew-survey It is not a matter of fringe groups, it's normalized both in public and by the media
You referred specifically to hate crimes, which I contend represent a fringe. Yes, there is a ton of persistent racism in US society.
Palestine
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-poll-biden-war-gaza-4159b28d313c6c37abdb7f14162bcdd1 "Broadly, the poll shows support for Israel and the Biden administration’s handling of the situation ebbing slightly further across the board. The poll shows 31% of U.S. adults approve of Biden’s handling of the conflict, including just 46% of Democrats. That’s as an earlier spike in support for Israel following the Hamas attacks Oct. 7 sags."
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/19/politics/biden-poll-israel-gaza-young-voters/index.html "Only one-third of registered voters approve of President Joe Biden’s handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, a new poll from The New York Times and Siena College finds, with young voters especially likely to express dissatisfaction. The finding aligns with other recent polling this month that showed significant partisan and generational divides over the Israel-Hamas war and Biden’s response."
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/15/1212913674/poll-israel-hamas-war-biden-democrats-republicans "The poll found Americans divided over Israel's military actions. Thirty-eight percent said the Israeli response has been too much, while an equal number said it's been "about right." The number of people who said the response has gone too far is up 12 points from a month ago."
Polls consistently show opinion on this issue has shifted dramatically and continues to do so. How you possibly come to any other conclusion is baffling.
The US isn't even ripe for socdem agitation, let alone Communist agitation, I agree many youths are becoming radicalized, but it goes both ways and right wing radicalization is far more common than young people going to Palestine marches and becoming MLs, what point is there in pretending otherwise?
It actually doesn't go both ways. Where are the massive rallies of fascists youth? What growing political movement and where? Right wing politics are pariah shit among young people. To claim that more people are getting radicalized into the right than supporting Palestine is just absolutely ridiculous. What on earth are you basing that on?
I know the conditions are ripe for communist organizing because I do it every day. I insist on pointing all this out because I'm sick of navel-gazing doomerism on this website. There is a real movement happening and it's embarrassing to be on here and so disconnected from it.
Increased support for police
Popular support for the police has absolutely cratered, best exemplified by dismal recruiting numbers across the country since 2020
the total normalization of anti LGBTQ+ sentiment
This was already normal, it's just shifted to a smaller and more marginalized group because it's no longer as acceptable to openly hate gay and lesbian people
the normalization of anti-vax politics
Yeah that's fair
the total collapse of support for migrant rights
From what prior support?
anti-asian and anti-muslim hate crimes on the rise
This does not represent a broad popular change but the increasing derangement of a fringe right wing.
And as recent as last June support for the Ukrainian war was as high as 75% percent, maintained for two years despite the bloodbath. It's only during the last few months that it dropped to around 45%
Last June was barely over a year into it. And yeah, up to date numbers show collapsing support.
And despite claims the majority of Americans support a ceasefire, as of Jan 5th 75% believe Israel receives either the "right amount of support" or "too little"
The majority of polls consistently show support for Israel declining and support for Palestine rising, both drastically.
Compared to 2018, the rightward shift is real
No it isn't, and the claim that it is smacks of someone who isn't engaged in organizing. The US is ripe for communist agitation in a way it hasn't been in probably 90 years. My party work is flooded with radicalized new recruits and is reaching a far broader basis of casual support than ever before. Palestine marches, educational events, fundraising, all an order of magnitude more attendance over a sustained period of time. Those people are turning directly to communist organizers for what to do next and want to go beyond just Palestine, too. They hear us say Marxism-Leninism and genuinely want to know more.
I could cite a bunch of polls to support my position - support for unions, opposition to capitalism as an economic system, disbelief in the US's capacity to deliver economic or racial justice, the Palestine stuff I've already referenced. But you just seem like you're in disconnected doomer mode so whatever. Go join a party.
They don’t have to turn to the right because they are already on the right
ok well the comment I was disagreeing with claimed that there has been a massive right-wing turn in the US over the last four years
Liberals only pretend to care about animals, they support colonialism that devastates agricultural and free-living animals all the time
The point is, many Americans want US troops to be out of Iraq and Afghanistan too, after years of devastation. That doesn’t mean they have turned to the left.
And a momentary support for the war that didn't even last a year doesn't mean they've turned to the right.
So I've been playing a lot of Helldivers 2. Awesome game, and one of the key mechanics is stratagems - you type ina little code on d-pad, then throw out a ball with a signal light for air/orbital support. A section of these are "eagle" strikes, where a plan circling in support flies in and drops an attack super quickly. The most satisfying of these is the simple airstrike: type the code, throw the ball, and three seconds later a barrage of heavy bombs drops on the target.
Now, when I see genocidal maniacs, I think to myself, "an eagle airstrike would solve this person in seconds flat".