Found this rabid comment on r/thedeprogram quoting an r/israel user: https://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1biqqy1/netanyahu_i_made_it_clear_to_biden_we_must_enter/kvm7kgo/?context=3
I read that poll from a while ago that most Israelis support the events in Gaza.
But I was thinking, that 20% of the population are Palestinians with Israeli citizenship; Israel's demographic has that minority of people. How could 97% support the genocide if 1/5th of the eligible voting/citizen population is Arabian. I get that even Palestinians with Israeli citizenship live under an apartheid regime, privileged in comparison to their kinsfolk in the West Bank and Gaza, but that poll seems suspicious.
I feel like the whole world is unraveling.
This is a very depraved and evil society. I used to imagine it was out of willful ignorance, being overburdened, and exhausted. I still believe this is true to a certain extent, but I am coming around to the belief that this is deliberate and willful complicity; complicity of depravity, of indifference.
And where once there used to be a facade of attempt at denying this, everyone in power is openly embracing genocide. Israel supporters are brazenly celebrating this.
Geopolitics and its government administrators aside, I'm really disgusted at ordinary people choosing the wrong side - the side of genocide - in this moment.
It's really hard to believe that this will be the "last straw" as it was so blatant, obvious, and out in the open. I'm hoping that Bushnell's last protest will be the catalyst that invigorates the people in the core to stop this massacre.
Events like this, and the events of the past 5 months, have made it blatantly and obviously clear. Where you no longer have to be an esoteric scholar of Israel-Palestine, since you can just read and see the news and events in live action and in the moment. This was never about security. Nor about Hamas. This was about seizing the opportunity to extinguish Palestinian life in Gaza, and eventually in the West Bank.
South Africa, Bushnell, and those who stood up and marched against Israel and for Palestine. Against genocide. It wasn't for nothing.
when is the icj meant to meet again in regards to South Africa-Israel? i recall the ICJ said a month from that point in late Jan.
I really despise how liberals treat Israel's genocide like a pet issue for American voters disgusted with Biden and the US government.
Bush doing a judicial coup and succeeding is far more disruptive of social norms than Jan 6th was. Bush's invasion of Iraq was more destructive than any of Trump's decisions.
I know that Israel is certainly trying to force Palestinians into the Sinai/Egypt, but this final push in Rafah makes it all so real. This feels like the beginning of the end, and the realization of Israel's genocidal goal of ethnic cleansing and starving out the Palestinians in Gaza. It doesn't matter that Israel can't defeat Hamas. Their victory conditions and objectives are the destruction of the Palestinian people, not the annihilation of Hamas itself.
With Gaza and Hamas defeated, it's all but certain Israel will intensify its colonization of the West Bank and create a permanent and oppressed minority for generations to come.
The mantra behind liberal democracy and liberalism's virtues of human rights, rule of law, equality, fraternity, egalitarianism, and freedom are exposed as vicious lies and tools used to reinforce white supremacy and Euro-American hegemony.
In a twisted irony, the citizens of these polities are okay with the lie being exposed. The disillusionment is embraced, celebrated, and venerated. Human rights, equality, and dignity for us, not for you.
What is to be done?
Is there any evidence of people turning against Israel?
I see a lot of protests and polls, and this genocide is giving lie to the notion that Western states, 'liberal democracies', are farces.
Why do conservatives care so much about the border? Probably a race thing but it seems so tedious to care.
what's going on with the border?
If you're voting between two genocidaires, and acknowledge it as such, then your political system is illegitimate and deeply evil.
And if it has gotten to that point, where you acknowledge the reality of genocidal parties and candidates but just handwring about voting, then the real sentiment here is:
I care about Ukrainians in my vicarious crusade against Russia (and because Ukrainians are European and white), and I don't care about Palestinians. Just let me go back to Brunch.
This is tell you all that those posters and propagandists are white supremacists. They just want a baptism that absolves their complicity in empire, because they also depend on it for cheap treats and good wages/credit. Life is materially good for them but also incredibly emotionally and spiritually vapid, which is why liberals obsess about politics in this manner.
Though Biden may not survive to see justice, I certainly hope the rest of the administration will be held to account one day.