RubiksIsocahedron

Humanity’s common nature, beyond the last few hundred years, is actually one of mutual aid and cooperation.

That is only true for people INSIDE their social circles.

INSIDE, jackass.

Everyone OUTSIDE is prey - that's why they're "outside".

I know "the various Peoples Histories of the various parts of the world" BETTER THAN YOU DO! I actually read the books and did the homework - you're the type of delinquent who copied off of me. I spent my life studying sociology and anthropology just to figure out why you motherfuckers hate me so much.

What life-threatening condition made you research sociology?

It is increasingly clear the more data is gathered that the current system of elevating greed, avarice, selfishness etc, is a historical outlier on a history that stretches back hundreds of thousands of years of people collectively cooperating.

What a load of horseshit. Narcissists are in complete control of the Earth and have been since before the feudal era - don't hand me this bullshit about how effective "people collectively cooperating" are. I'll believe "people collectively cooperating" matter when they start carving up narcissists like it's a deli counter.

You're the one avoiding facts.

Right now, a third of the U.S. - the white supremacy movement - has openly announced their desire to kill off at least another third of the U.S.

But, for some reason, those same people will refuse to kill me - despite some of them being the exact same people who beat me up in grade school?

They're murderers, dipshit - they don't make exception for anyone - not even their own.

And the only reason the other two thirds aren't actively killing me is because they know the other third will - and they plan to help them kill me.

Also, "out to get" is your bullshit framing base on your laziness. It's actually opportunism - but that still leaves me dead, and doesn't excuse their behavior - or yours.

Finally, you still haven't addressed the fact that you positively, provably manipulate your own emotions in bad faith to create a justification for abusing me.

Yes you would - that's what history is - the record of human failure.

How did you come to that interpretation?

To me, that's the only interpretation that makes sense. Why the fuck would you allay my fears of your safety? To you, my fears would be you r asset you can use against me. Allaying those fears disarms you.

If you are not harmless, however, you can find safety, even in dicey situations, in your capacity to get out of them on your own terms.

Not necessarily. "Not harmless" does not guarantee "sufficiently harmful".

Are humans fake to their pets, to their children? To their frail elders?

For this definition those beings are equal. Equal in social status, not competency.

How much do you yourself enforce that brand?

I don't. The entire point of talking to you people is to break you of this obsession with putting down.

…never mind you just answered that.

It's not my mind forcing you people to denigrate me; you choose, of your own free will, to do so. Even your belief that I influence that choice is your choice to allow me to influence , your choice to even believe that I can influence that choice. You can choose to not denigrate NO MATTER HOW I ACT, and that is in fact the only moral choice, but you all choose the immoral choice because it is immoral, because it is anti-social.

You choose to assert that I am less than you to dominate me, and you claim my behavior is the cause to further that domination.

Bullshit. What a weak argument. The entire goddamned point is that your fucking "kindness" is so ineffective it can't achieve anything.

I take responsibility for things I have actually done wrong. The problem here is that people conflate their out-of-control feelings with factual incorrectness. I can't be responsible for your feelings, especially when you go out of your way to feel things in bad faith to blame me for those feelings. It's your responsibility to not allow your feelings to affect your judgment in any way.

You don't actually care about me being truly responsible - you just want me to be stupid enough and submissive enough to accept responsibility for things I have no duty to be responsible for. You want me to be responsible for your feelings that you have in bad faith, so you can justify "punishing" me arbitrarily.

Then it's a moral one. It's morally wrong to give human beings an inch - especially when it's practically guaranteed that they use that inch to abuse someone else.

The problem with telling you is that it helps you fake the evidence. I have to assume that once I tell you, everything you give that looks like that evidence must be assumed to be faked.

Evidence can exist, but human beings are too dishonest to present it. Human beings cannot be trusted - and humanity's history of dishonesty is all the proof I need for that. I will never trust human beings, as a moral compunction.

Not on that - it's an either/or situation.

People's reactions to my choices make my life more difficult, and that's why they are good. They can choose not to make my life more difficult; they instead make the immoral choice. My choice is moral and therefore the only one I can really make.

I plead the fifth.

I know my nature thank you very much.

No you don't. You actively try to be ignorant of it, because you don't want to know the horrible truth.

And what do you mean with “correction”? Do you want me to be an asshole?

The correct is stopping you from being an asshole.

You also don’t need to worry about me: I’m peaceful, not harmless.

I'm not your gullible mark. I'll worry about you as *I* see fit - not as you dictate.

In fact, you can’t really be peaceful if you’re harmless, in that we agree I think.

No we don't - I can't even make sense of this line.

That’s not a narcissistic motive. Narcissists feel shame when they, inadvertently, do something nice same as others feel shame when they inadvertently hurt. Their moral instincts are flipped and their function in society is to keep the rest on our toes. They’re the empty space directly around the mark so the mark is easier to see. Their purpose in life is to be a warning example. In that way they serve good.

This is directly contrary to even the wikipedia entry, much less the therapists I see. You're just full of shit.

And I don’t care about whatever shame the assholes put into you. Keep it to yourself, you deserve kindness regardless. The question is whether you’re willing to look beyond it and become receptive to kindness, or whether you carry it around as a shield because giving it up would invoke the ire of people you are, as I gather, no longer under the direct thumb of.

I have nothing to be ashamed of. I never stopped being receptive to genuine kindness - I stopped being receptive to obvious, bald-faced lies and other bad faith behavior. I stopped being receptive to the idea that people can be genuine instead of being continuous, compulsive liars. I stopped being a sucker, and started being a skeptic - and I never took anything anyone said at face value again.

Human beings are incapable of being genuine to those they do not consider their equal. I have been branded infinitely beneath all others, a brand enforced by society itself. No one will ever interact with me in good faith - and nothing anyone can say will change my mind.