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After Poland reacted to the arrival of Wagner mercenary troops to Belarus by moving some of its troops to its eastern border, Russia's Vladimir Putin accused Warsaw of trying to seize more land in eastern Europe.

Putin claimed there were press reports about forming a Polish-Lithuanian unit that would operate in western Ukraine. He also warned that any attack on Belarus, Moscow's sole ally in Europe, would be treated as an attack on Russia.

"It is well known that they also dream of the Belarusian lands," Putin said.

Speaking ahead of a meeting of Russia's Security Council, Putin said that Russia would respond "with all means at our disposal.

Here are more major developments in Russia's war in Ukraine from Thursday, July 21:

Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed the West is running out of "cannon fodder" in Ukraine and said Polish leaders were seeking to intervene under the umbrella of NATO.

"The perspective is obvious," Putin said. "If Polish troops enter, for example, Lviv or other Ukrainian territories, they will stay there. And they will stay there forever."

The Russian president also spoke at length about Poland's alleged history of claiming territories of other countries. According to Putin, this history culminated in 1939 with Poland being cast away by its Western allies to be "eaten" by Nazi Germany. In reality, Berlin and Moscow agreed to divide Polish territory in 1939 after Germany and the Soviet Union formed a non-aggression pact.

He did not make any comparison to Moscow's illegal annexation of the Crimean peninsula in 2014 or its claims that regions of eastern Ukraine occupied by Russian forces are part of Russia.

Putin claimed the Soviet Union restored Polish independence after WWII and allowed it to expand into German territories.

"Have our friends in Warsaw forgotten about this? We will remind them," Putin said, instructing its foreign intelligence chief to closely monitor Warsaw's actions.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The Russian president also spoke at length about Poland’s alleged history of claiming territories of other countries.

What is this I can't even…

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Since Poland was restored at the Treaty of Versailles, it has invaded exactly 0 countries. Russia has invaded a few dozen. Including Poland. Twice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not only that but Russia literally geographically shifted Poland westward to make a larger buffer space after WWII.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Projection so powerful, you could show movies on the moon's surface.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what the actual fuck is this madmen talking about ? I mean are russians really that stupid to believe this dipshit?

How stupid and brainwashed can someone be?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean are russians really that stupid to believe this dipshit?

Yes. Very much yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For the same reason fascists constantly accuse of "virtue signalling." Dickheads like this have convinced us everyone is secretly as much of an amoral, power-hungry narcissist as them. So when we talk about caring about other people, they assume we must be lying for some kind of political benefit-- because there's absolutely no way we actually care about other people, nobody does that, right?

(This is also how they sleep at night, by the way: sure, they're bad, but everyone else is just as bad as them if not worse, so who cares.)

So yeah, a dickhead like Putin is going to assume every other country must secretly be just as revanchist as his Russia.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Thought I was at the cineplex movie theater with all the projection going on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More mental gymnast, this time his misunderstanding of European and Polish-Lithuanian history.

Edit - misunderstanding is wrong word. Twisting the narrative to figure own propaganda would be the correct phrase.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well I guess Russia is famous for its gymnasts…

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So by the principle of russian projection, russia will annex belarus soon?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

It basically has in all but writing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also pretty telling that he's conflating the Soviet Union with the current Russian Federation in talking about WWII.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me it sounds like guys in Polish uniforms are about to attack a radio tower, haha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

While speaking Russian the whole time, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

LMAO he is scared.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed the West is running out of “cannon fodder”

LOL.

If Poland enters the war too, Russia will get fucked fucked really hard.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The cannon fodder comment is pure projection from Putin.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's why the GOP love him so much.

Gaslight

Obstruct

Project

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia loves people like you who are doing their divide-and-conquer work for them.

Most of the right wing is in support of Ukraine. And every case of the government officials opposing more help for Ukraine I've seen was on financial grounds, not because they support Russia.

Support of Ukraine is one of the most bipartisan political position in the nation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also the fact that the most recent Republican president, spent pretty much his entire term trying to serve Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter.

And Republicans reacted to this betrayal by... making him the frontrunner for the GOP nomination in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If Polish troops enter, for example, Lviv or other Ukrainian territories, they will stay there. And they will stay there forever.

Holy mother of projection.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

You know, they might move some troops there. As part of a NATO defence force. And, yeah, he's right, they'll probably stay there. But they'll have been invited and won't be stealing washing machines.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking ahead of a meeting of Russia’s Security Council, Putin said that Russia would respond "with all means at our disposal.

Oh no, more poorly trained & barely equipped cannon fodder.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly I'm not joking when I say the biggest worry i have about this war is nuclear catastrophe. Not Russia nuking Europe, I mean their poorly-maintained stockpile going up in nuclear flame all across Russia when they do decide to use it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine if this leaves Russia unstable enough to actually dismantle their nuclear arsenal as these types of weapons should be in no one's hands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Well, it looks like I just picked a whole bouquet of Oopsie-daisies."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Anything Putin claims of the West, is a simple admission of guilt.

I can't imagine how anyone who doesn't live in his staterun media bubble could take his words at face value.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

What's the West running out of, exactly?

We've had politicians holding us back from sending the good shit. We have decades of the old shit to use up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

So, Putin really wants Belarus to attack Poland. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why are we even granting this liar any voice? It doesn't matter what the person is saying if noone can tell if he is lying or not.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can absolutely tell if he's lying. It's super easy.

If Putin says a thing, it's a lie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Trump is a Putin wannabe, so yup.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"If Polish troops enter, for example, Lviv or other Ukrainian territories, they will stay there. And they will stay there forever.”

So that's his fear. Thanks for being so transparent and forthcoming, Mr. Putin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The days where Putin's word had real weight are over. Russian military capability is degraded and will take decades to recover. Good job, chief.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What's the point of applying the actions of a country nearly 100 years ago when talking about current issues? We're not even going to address whether statements are true are not. Knowing history and how it applies to the modern world is one thing, but using said actions as a justification for the modern application is reductive but that message is for people who don't think critically I guess.

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