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“If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times.
What she knows now is that the coup wouldn't succeed and she would be liable for her part in a treasonous plot to overthrow the democratically elected candidate.
IOW: "I'm sorry I got caught."
She's also the one who's been most vocally whining that Trump isn't paying her legal bills. I'm sure she'd be singing a different tune if she wasn't facing bankruptcy.
She she threw everyone else under the bus too. She's not just out of law school, she's in her late 30's. I think she was blaming her own incompetence?
She got fired from a rural Colorado DA's office for incompetence....then appears as a "constitutional" expert. Scam
"Janna Ellis? I hardly know her."
--Donald Trump in 47 minutes
"She was never my lawyer, but also attorney client privilege means she can't testify against me!"
Eventually, Trump will be like "Donald Trump, no, I'm Ronald Turnip. I don't know any Trump "
I'm hoping he tries to convince Don Jr to switch places with him.
I'd watch this Freaky Friday remake.
Maybe John Barron, a totally real vice president of one of Trump's companies, will come out of retirement
Now that's an old reference. Very nice.
"Plus she isn't even my type"
She was just a coffee girl!
He has already claimed she wasn't his lawyer.
How many of Donald Trump's lawyers have somehow magically become not his lawyers now?
Schroedinger's Attorney
If you keep expecting logic or reason out of Trump's words or actions, I don't know what to tell ya.
Except he doesn't work that way.
"I would never work with her, she's ugly."
If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 10/24/2023
Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - No trial date has yet been set.
Lawyers have until December 1st, 2023 to file motions.
Four defendants, lawyers Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
Conviction
Sentencing
Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 4th, 2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Conviction
Sentencing
New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus. and has now been determined to be for damages only as Trump was already found liable.
As a function of the January 6th and Georgia trials, there are now lawsuits in two states to bar Trump from the primary ballot based on the insurrection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Colorado: 9/6/2023 - Lawsuit filed.
Minnesota: 9/12/2023 - Lawsuit filed.
A long-shot write in candidate for President has also filed suits seeking to bar Trump from the ballot in Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Clear and to the point, thanks for this!
God damn - March is shaping up to be spicy!
She fucked around and found out. I'm exhausted by people talking about their ethical failings "as a Christian." If she were successful in her attempts, along with others, to overthrow the election, she wouldn't be apologizing. She would be saying that God helped her. The issue is that she just doesn't have an ethical spine, and she has to borrow a misguided one from a religion.
She's a trashbag... she used to come onto a trash show I mixed the audio on and pedal this bullshit... she's a con artist who got fired from a rural Colorado DA's office due to incompetence then all the sudden she's a "constitutional" expert. Bullshit.
Randy Rainbow needs to make a version of "Another One Bites the Dust":
🎶 Flip, flip, flip. Another one flips on Trump! Flip, flip flip. Another one flips on Trump!
And another one gone, and another one gone. Trump defense bites the dust! 🎶
I literally came here to post the lyrics to Another One Bites The Dust; so happy you had a similar thought
Ellis delivered a tearful statement to the judge Tuesday while pleading guilty, disavowing her participation in former President Donald Trump’s unprecedented attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
“If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse,” Ellis said, her voice breaking at times.
She also said, “I failed to do my due diligence.”
Hey, Jack's gonna get you too, another one flips on Trump. 🎶
Three trump lawyers and a bail bondsman walk into a bar and they drink their hearts out because they all plead guilty for a dufus. It's funny to me!
🤡 Welcome to the Clown Show
We got fun and games
We got clowns who flip around
Honey we know the names.
In the courtroom, welcome to the courtroom
Watch it bring you to your shun-n-n-n-n, knees, knees
Mwah, ah, I wanna watch you plead!
And in your con you never, ever wanna look weak
SO weak
SO weak
SO weeeeeeeeeeeeeak
She isn't sorry for what she did, only that she got caught and is now facing consequences. Pathetic.
This is starting to get good. Pretty soon it'll be Trump standing alone at the dock.
Rudy has to know, the longer it takes to plead, the worse it's going to go for him...
Rudy can't get a plea deal worth dick. He's already admitted to being a lying sack of shit and that he's aware of the falsehood of his statements, nothing he says on or off the stand is of any use to the prosecution at this point.
In unrelated disciplinary proceedings in Colorado, where Ellis is a practicing attorney, Ellis admitted that many of her post-election public statements were false, including her claim that the race was “stolen” from Trump. She was censured by a judge and agreed to pay $224
Holy shit, she got off easy on that. They were looking to disbar her. I would hope that this is a teaching moment for her, but fuck with these MAGA idiots I don't really hold much hope. Like she may never know how close to absolutely destabilizing her entire life she came.
Remember though, this is a RICO.
RICO isn't usually aimed at the pawns. It's the leaders. The more that plead guilty to the conspiracy and can point fingers up, the better. Pleading guilty is exactly what prosecution wants for the pawns.
That's what cracks me up about this quote from Trump's lawyer. He's acting like the pawns flipping means the RICO case is weak, when in reality it's doing exactly what it was meant to do.
In exchange for Ellis’ cooperation, prosecutors dropped her original two charges, including a violation of Georgia’s racketeering law known as RICO. Trump lawyer Steve Sadow said in a statement that he believes this helps his client and noted that the criminal conduct admitted to by Ellis “doesn’t even mention President Trump.”
“For the fourth time, Fani Willis and her prosecution team have dismissed the RICO charge in return for a plea to probation,” Sadow said. “What that shows is this so-called RICO case is nothing more than a bargaining chip for DA Willis.”
she got off easy on that.
They want to make it as enticing as possible for people to flip on the higher-ups. "Look, it's not a big deal. You're just going to have to pay a few bucks, and write an apology, and then you get to go free. All you have to do in exchange is help us take down the big guy."
It might sound cynical, but I'm thrilled they're making it so easy for Trump's cronies to flip. I'd much rather have Trump warming a jail bench and all of his co-conspirators freed than Trump on the campaign trail and every single one of the lackeys behind bars. They're disgraced enough already--on both sides of the aisle--that there's no way they'll ever be taken seriously in politics again anyway.
In short, it's better for our country this way.
I called this one. Guessed yesterday she'd be next :)
IM A GUD KKKRISTIAN!!!!
Jenna Ellis who just scored $200k from her MAGAt dipshit followers for 'legal fees' is going to plead out, vacation at Paradise Island for three months, and then sashay into a lucrative Fox News gig? Aw man I feel bad for her. I mean it's not her fault that's What Jesus Would Do.
Fox News is still dealing with Smartmatic. She's probably exhibit 289 in that lawsuit and the only lucrative thing Fox is giving out is about to be a fat check to Smartmatic.
If you have to throw in the Good Christian defense along with your federal charges, there are some issues.
Another witch’ Add them to the pile
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Former Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis has pleaded guilty in the Georgia election subversion case to one count of aiding and abetting false statements and will cooperate with Fulton County prosecutors.
Ellis delivered a tearful statement to the judge Tuesday while pleading guilty, disavowing her participation in former President Donald Trump’s unprecedented attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
“In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, I believed that challenging the results on behalf of President Trump should be pursued in a just and legal way … I endeavored to represent my client to the best of my ability,” she said.
The development comes after back-to-back guilty pleas last week in the sprawling case from former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro, who helped devise the fake electors plot.
She acknowledged that she was “assisting with the execution of” that legislative hearing with Giuliani and another co-defendant, Trump campaign attorney Ray Smith.
As a result of the deal, Ellis, who has an active online presence, is also banned from posting anything on social media about the case while the proceedings are unfolding against any of the defendants, prosecutors said.
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Looks a lot different in front of a judge than she did in her mugshot.
I had the misfortune of mixing Spicer and Co. During the Jan 6 time frame. I had to listen to her bullshit and don't buy her tears for a second, she was 100% down with the coup
“As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings,” Ellis said. But after the 2020 election, “I failed to do my due diligence,” she said. “I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information … what I did not do, but should have done, your honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true,” Ellis said.
LOL, the good ol' "wasn't me" defense. Nice to see she's taking a leaf out of dumpty's playbook.