It's not decentralized and e2ee is not implemented.
this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
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Matrix https://matrix.org is a decentralized alternative
there's a wrapper for matrix Rocket Chat (a wrapper of matrix) https://www.rocket.chat/
Matrix only partially has e2ee and its e2ee is time based and breaks under high latency
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Honestly it's just going from one bad app host (discord) to another that could be less bad but still has all your data (revolt). You can host your own revolt server but you won't be able to join any of revolts servers. Matrix is just plain better for privacy and security. I do like to see more alternatives out there tho
The problem with matrix is that the standard isn't standardized. Its constantly changing and the matrix server software is buggy
edit: just to be clear I'm not saying revolt is better
Can you go into more depth about why this is a problem on the server side? On client side, I found a few clients that work well and its been easy breezy since then.
The problem is that synapse is very touchy. I've had issues with broken encryption and messages not going though
XMPP it is, then.
If you like living in the 90's
That's like saying you can use email if you like living in the 70s-80s. XMPP is a pretty healthy and active project that is standardized like email and ActivityPub. I would consider XMPP pretty modern, especially considering its features, extensions, etc., as well as the numerous applications it is integrated in.
XMPP is also used in very popular games, consoles, and clients.
I recently tried to register in XMPP. I found a site on the Internet with a list of servers and it took me more than an 30minets to register.
You may ask why it took so long? The fact is that registration was closed on some sites. Some sites did not open through the browser.
I managed to register on some servers, but messages to these addresses were not delivered (messages sent from these addresses also did not reach the recipient).
Quick registration through the Conversations and Blabber applications also produced errors.
(One of the problematic servers is og.im)
In general, if you want to quickly register and start chatting with a friend without any problems, this may not work.
I think one recommended server added by default to the application by the developer could solve this problem. (For example, like in Matrix, where you are asked to register with matrix.org)
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Why not Element/Matrix?
Revolt is simple and works almost exactly the same as Discord. Element requires understanding federation, and it's "spaces" feature is not the same as Discord "servers".
How is it different from discord?
way different, it's open source
- Doesn't track you like discord does to remain "free"
- You audit the code for security and privacy issues
- You can self-host or fork the code for yourself if you ever need to build a backup because some idiot decided to purchase the original revolt project and decided to screw with it
- It has an open source license so the software can never be privatized, it's essentially a public utility; for everyone by everyone
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- Revolt is made with collaborative effort, and if you like coding it makes it so if you can to try and code stuff to add custom functionality or plugins or whatever else. Like a public utility you can add to it and develop it communally, though in this case it would be a public utility serving a public with a population of just you. But because of the GPL license Revolt uses, it makes it so that you need to share your changes. Whatever form the source code takes, it remains a public utility until perpetuity.
I'd like to know, too. Especially considering most servers I'm on are unlikely to switch.
They only thing missing is voice for gaming.
Really wish that IRC allowed to have all the new bells and whistles that Discord has. Avatars, in-line images and videos, streaming rooms, etc…
matrix?
Is matrix not a separate protocol?
Remember: Revolt =\ Revolut
yet another other miserable attempt at doing IRC
It has been a long time since I used IRC, but or it has changed a lot or it's not similar.
Could you send inline images? Could you assign granular permission and roles ? Can have several rooms with access and visibility control of each of them? Can you make audio rooms? Can you react to mensages?
Right. Discord, Revolt, Guilded etc. are heavily inspired by IRC but they modernized it by adding more features. Right now they are so much more than IRC.
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Revolt was okay when I briefly used it, however I don't like the developers
Sounds nice but we all know the majority won't make the switch from Discord so it's sadly but most probably a stillbirth.
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