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Wait till they learn about machine shops, where they actually make custom stuff out of metal.
Even I will admit this one is a stupid one. Maybe I'm biased because I have a 3D printer and am aware how fucking hard it is to keep in working condition, especially for high temp plastics needed for "3D printed" guns. Instead the legislature should target the ownership and sale of receivers.
Or the legislature should stop trampling on our rights.
2A is the only enumerated right with a specific "do not touch" admonition, and yet it's probably the most violated right.
Or the legislature should stop trampling on our rights.
Your rights end where my nose begins, and unrestricted gun access impedes the rights of others to live.
The founding fathers built that amendment in a time whith very different technology from today. Nowadays a gun can and frequently does mow down an entire room of innocent people/children.
If you care about the lives of your children you would do something to bring our death rates in line with the low rates of Europe. We have an almost ten times higher firearm death rate than European countries. The solution is not more unfettered gun access.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
https://www.statista.com/chart/27724/gun-deaths-in-europe/
yet it’s probably the most violated right.
The right to vote would like a word.
Your rights end where my nose begins, and unrestricted gun access impedes the rights of others to live.
These 12 Defensive Uses of Guns Support Student’s Plea for Armed Self-Defense
Impedes the rights of other to live? Like the right of criminals to live and commit crime? Like rapists to live and rape? Like murderers to live and murder?
I know the statistics of gun deaths (mass shootings, firearm suicide statistics, general gun deaths in the US), but so what?
As BearOfaTime said:
2A is the only enumerated right with a specific “do not touch” admonition
Of course that was a reinterpretation of the Second Amendment that was unprecedented:
By the beginning of the twenty-first century, many of the U.S. Courts of Appeals that considered the matter concluded that the Second Amendment protected a collective right tied to militia or military use of firearms...
And then Scalia did his thing, and now guns deaths are rising and they are the leading cause of death of children.
But so what? It's enumerated and says don't infringe on it.
Impedes the rights of other to live? Like the right of criminals to live and commit crime? Like rapists to live and rape? Like murderers to live and murder?
Criminals, armed with guns bought legally, or without a background check or stolen from a "responsible gun owner" whose idea of safe storage was in the glovebox of their car.
Rapists, like the domestic abusers who use their legal guns to threaten and intimidate their family, like the prominent Trump support that recently tried to execute his wife in the street.
Murderers, like the 80% of mass shooters using legal firearms or the majority of the remaining 20% using the unsecured guns of a family member.
But don't worry guys, in 3 out of 100 mass shootings, a good guy will kill them after they've only killed 3 or 4 people. That's only slightly worse than unarmed people!
What's really fucked in the head is that you haven't even realised that most people aren't like you and don't throb in anticipation at the idea of killing someone.
"If you don't want to be raped, just use your cool gun to murder them before they murder you with their cool gun, replacing one trauma with another".
What a shithole of a place a pro-gun utopia is.
Of course it was Scalia
These 12 Defensive Uses of Guns Support Student’s Plea for Armed Self-Defense
If I didn't know better, I'd think this was an onion article because of how dumb it is. Children shouldn't need to defend themselves in the first place.
Impedes the rights of other to live?
Yes. The unrestricted access to guns in this country has lead to countless deaths and mass shootings.
It is impeding on people's right to life.
Like the right of criminals to live and commit crime? Like rapists to live and rape? Like murderers to live and murder?
I never alluded to crime being a right. If you can't make an argument without jumping to strawman arguments, then politics may not be for you.
I know the statistics of gun deaths (mass shootings, firearm suicide statistics, general gun deaths in the US), but so what?
People are dying. What do you mean so what? Do you have no empathy?
As Pizza man said:
I think one of us is confused about who is saying/arguing what.
It’s enumerated and says don’t infringe on it.
The constitution was built to be able to be changed. And it can be changed so that firearms are no longer the leading cause of death for children.
If I didn’t know better, I’d think this was an onion article because of how dumb it is. Children shouldn’t need to defend themselves in the first place.
Hey Genius, he means College Students
I never alluded to such non-existent rights. If you can’t make an argument without jumping to strawman arguments, then politics may not be for you.
Taking a subset of a political opponent's argument and showing how it's harmful is a core conservative rhetorical strategy. Look at this article from today about Britney Spears's abortion which argues against it because she had access to it, the liberal dream. If one person has access to abortion, and it causes problem, then it probably causes problems in the majority of cases.
In any case, my three links about gun statistics support your argument. I'm not strawmaning anything. I'm looking at it directly in the face and dismissing it based on the fact that the law and historical interpretation of the Second Amendment (as of 2008) establishes a right to bear arms. I assume the law is the final arbiter of all things permissible in society (except for all the laws I don't care to follow). Thus, having concluded that guns are permissible and desirable, I can rationalize backwards, finding evidence that guns support life in contrast to a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
The other day, someone pointed out that I was a troll from the previous conservative instance. They're not exactly wrong...but I don't discriminate. Liberals need to get better at handling conservative rhetoric. Because none of your arguments are effective.
Taking a subset of a political opponent’s argument and showing how it’s harmful is a core conservative rhetorical strategy
I am well aware. I deal with it all the time.
Because none of your arguments are effective.
If you have suggestions I'm all ears. Until then this is only a complaint with no solution.
I'm also not really here to convince conservatives.
In any case, my three links about gun statistics support your argument.
The last two do, but I don't see how your first link comes to a pro-gun control conclusion.
Don't 3D Printed Guns break after a single use?
So do some 3d printers.
Basically any printer can make a single use 3D printed gun. But not all "3D printed" guns are single use. A lot of them use metal parts from kits online, with the remainder of the parts to be 3D printed.
Generally you need to use high temp plastics for it to last.
Vice had a decent documentary on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4dBuPJ9p7A