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NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers, Attempts to Target Ghost Guns
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Or the legislature should stop trampling on our rights.
2A is the only enumerated right with a specific "do not touch" admonition, and yet it's probably the most violated right.
Your rights end where my nose begins, and unrestricted gun access impedes the rights of others to live.
The founding fathers built that amendment in a time whith very different technology from today. Nowadays a gun can and frequently does mow down an entire room of innocent people/children.
If you care about the lives of your children you would do something to bring our death rates in line with the low rates of Europe. We have an almost ten times higher firearm death rate than European countries. The solution is not more unfettered gun access.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
https://www.statista.com/chart/27724/gun-deaths-in-europe/
The right to vote would like a word.
These 12 Defensive Uses of Guns Support Student’s Plea for Armed Self-Defense
Impedes the rights of other to live? Like the right of criminals to live and commit crime? Like rapists to live and rape? Like murderers to live and murder?
I know the statistics of gun deaths (mass shootings, firearm suicide statistics, general gun deaths in the US), but so what?
As BearOfaTime said:
Of course that was a reinterpretation of the Second Amendment that was unprecedented:
And then Scalia did his thing, and now guns deaths are rising and they are the leading cause of death of children.
But so what? It's enumerated and says don't infringe on it.
Criminals, armed with guns bought legally, or without a background check or stolen from a "responsible gun owner" whose idea of safe storage was in the glovebox of their car.
Rapists, like the domestic abusers who use their legal guns to threaten and intimidate their family, like the prominent Trump support that recently tried to execute his wife in the street.
Murderers, like the 80% of mass shooters using legal firearms or the majority of the remaining 20% using the unsecured guns of a family member.
But don't worry guys, in 3 out of 100 mass shootings, a good guy will kill them after they've only killed 3 or 4 people. That's only slightly worse than unarmed people!
What's really fucked in the head is that you haven't even realised that most people aren't like you and don't throb in anticipation at the idea of killing someone.
"If you don't want to be raped, just use your cool gun to murder them before they murder you with their cool gun, replacing one trauma with another".
What a shithole of a place a pro-gun utopia is.
Of course it was Scalia
If I didn't know better, I'd think this was an onion article because of how dumb it is. Children shouldn't need to defend themselves in the first place.
Yes. The unrestricted access to guns in this country has lead to countless deaths and mass shootings.
It is impeding on people's right to life.
I never alluded to crime being a right. If you can't make an argument without jumping to strawman arguments, then politics may not be for you.
People are dying. What do you mean so what? Do you have no empathy?
I think one of us is confused about who is saying/arguing what.
The constitution was built to be able to be changed. And it can be changed so that firearms are no longer the leading cause of death for children.
Taking a subset of a political opponent's argument and showing how it's harmful is a core conservative rhetorical strategy. Look at this article from today about Britney Spears's abortion which argues against it because she had access to it, the liberal dream. If one person has access to abortion, and it causes problem, then it probably causes problems in the majority of cases.
In any case, my three links about gun statistics support your argument. I'm not strawmaning anything. I'm looking at it directly in the face and dismissing it based on the fact that the law and historical interpretation of the Second Amendment (as of 2008) establishes a right to bear arms. I assume the law is the final arbiter of all things permissible in society (except for all the laws I don't care to follow). Thus, having concluded that guns are permissible and desirable, I can rationalize backwards, finding evidence that guns support life in contrast to a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
The other day, someone pointed out that I was a troll from the previous conservative instance. They're not exactly wrong...but I don't discriminate. Liberals need to get better at handling conservative rhetoric. Because none of your arguments are effective.
I am well aware. I deal with it all the time.
If you have suggestions I'm all ears. Until then this is only a complaint with no solution.
I'm also not really here to convince conservatives.
The last two do, but I don't see how your first link comes to a pro-gun control conclusion.
Hey Genius, he means College Students
No, prohibiting people from being armed impedes their right to live.
I carry a weapon because I was almost killed by a pair of boots once, worn by a man about 30 lbs heavier than me. I’m never going back to that situation, where somebody gets to decide whether I live or die just because they’re bigger than me.
My life is precious and I intend to keep it, and that’s why I carry a weapon. Nobody has the right to force me to be at other people’s mercy.
This is just a repeat of one of your other comments.
I never said otherwise.