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Will Chris win?

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[+] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

And that last sentence is what the election should have been all about.

[+] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Labour have done a horrendous job. They deserve this. But it will Royaly fuck the poor.

Not looking forward to the next 3 years.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Im just reminding myself that regardless of who is at the helm, things aren't going to get better in the next 3 years. NZ has lacked decades of investment and so small that we are at the wim of Aus, Europe, China and US. National may give our country a bit of strength, but it won't be stronger people and I doubt they will be looking ahead.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Rolling back environmental policies and landlord tax will be pretty bad for all of us. I don't think strength is anything we require. Nobody is worried of an armed New Zealand.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Clarification - economic strength, (business) investment, population and tech. Soft power, not hard power, but saying that I'm in Defense studies and the asia-pacific region is having significant concerns with hard power and we have a massive EEZ. Moot point though, back to mine.

Our country needs significant financial investment - we love this country but we are soo far behind in soo many ways. Labour has tried to offset things like cost of living, housing, health but there is soo much to do.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Business in my opinion. My very very controversial opinion. Business is a cancer. It's the worst thing to happen to humanity since money was invented.

Business looks to squeeze everything to profit the few. Maybe stop looking to greed and start getting the basics. Housing food security.

You can rape pillage and destroy the planet for profit. Won't help.yhe majority though.

But that's just my incorrect opinion

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Thats disappointing as I don't think national gives a shit at all. I suspect the tax cuts with the current cost of living got national through, but it does nothing to move the country ahead.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

I suspect nothing about what National offered was what did it, other than the fact they were not Labour. I fully believe that the majority of people vote without knowing what policies they are voting for.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Oh God, are we going to get our Trump?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

We get the government we deserve.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I found that too. Any political conversation I had this cycle were basically: "Winston for the shit stir" or "Lifelong (insert party) voter". Nobody I spoke to really knew any policy.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I've been mentioning the cool Act policies in passing to people I talk with. No one knew that they want to remove all building standards, repeal the act that sets our carbon reduction targets, or allow employers to call everyone contractors to get around employee protections and so they don't have to pay annual/sick leave, etc. I'll be watching the coalition negotiations with interest.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yup - "oh why vote for those losers" yet when I asked what they disagree with they have nothing. I feel like alot of nationals vote was "i want something different", a tax cut or lifetime members.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Cool, we get to watch an national/act government tonight, a no vote in Australia overnight and a genocide tomorrow

[-] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Playing apocalypse bingo over there?

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Don't forget the Polish elections tomorrow! It has all the drama of a modern election!

[-] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Wait for the special votes. Back in 1999 - The Greens won 7 extra seats from special votes alone.

A special voter

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Well fuck

[-] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I hope NZ wins, but Chris has it in the bag. Unlike that prick Chris.

Edit: not calling Hipkins a prick, but with the result it looks it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Even in his electorate, he didn't win with anywhere near the majority he has had previously. His stretch as PM has really hurt his popularity.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I think labour is reaping the consequences of protecting the country during covid. They did an amazing job and now its over the country forgot how much their choices did.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Funnily enough there is probably a chance Chris loses

[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Fuck

[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's looking like Blue Chris will win, a disappointing result for Red Chris.

Serious though, this is a huge shift from last election, almost a 25% drop. And it looks like Winnie will be out in the cold, thankfully.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

It's the least inspiring election I've ever seen. Literally had no idea who was the least worst option stepping into the booth

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

That's the heart of it right there. There was simply no right choice.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

If you look at the cumulative votes graph, you'll see there are a lot less voters this election. It makes me wonder what the shift would look like if everyone voted (or, what are the key demographics for people who don't vote).

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Wow it sucks that TOP didn't do better; but what sucks even more is that NZ Loyal got 1.15%; the crazys were out in force this year.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Its seems like a lot of area seats were lost because left wing votes were split between labour and greens which allowed national to snag it.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, FPP for the electorate vote is kinda bullshit. Ranked preference would be way fairer

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I was about to try and point out that a party vote for greens is actually a party vote for a greens+labour coalition.

Then realised that you're referring to electorate votes.

Derp.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

So going on how things changed as voters were counted, it would appear that the early voting broke more for Nat / Act, and then the day of voting broke for Lab / G. NZF & TPM stayed relatively consistent throughout the night. This makes sense, blue-collar working people are somewhat more likely to vote Labour than National, and are less likely to have time to get to one of the fewer advance voting posts, than the typically white-collar / retired voters who are somewhat more likely to vote for the right.

The vote totals have now tightened up considerably on whether National can form a government with just Act; such that I am interested to know how many overseas / special votes there might be, and if any of them have been counted yet. If there's enough of them, and they tipped more Labour/Green than National then it might be enough to pull another vote from the right to the left, and given Parliament has an overhang this term Luxon would need to pick up the phone to someone to get an outright majority, at least on confidence & supply.

Another big talking point for me is that one in every twenty voters this election has no representation in Parliament at all due to the threshold requirements for minor parties.