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I've noticed sometimes that there's some half-baked videos or blogs or whatever that purport this or that frugal trick, but if you look at the time or math, it's not actually frugal for you.

What are some examples of that you've come across? The things that "aren't worth it"?

For me it's couponing. (Although I haven't heard people talk about it recently--has it fallen out of "style", or have businesses caught up to the loopholes folks used to exploit?)

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's more of a generalized rule but:

Assume that your own time has value.

A lot of "frugal" tips operate off the assumption that you can spend your own time and it doesn't cost anything. But your time is valuable. Time spent trying to save a few bucks should be considered working time; ask yourself how much you would get paid by your job for the same amount of time. Maybe you enjoy doing whatever the thing is, so it can be considered recreation, but if it's some difficult or mind numbing slog, then that doesn't necessarily mean that you actually saved yourself anything, because you weren't getting paid to do work, and you could have been doing something more rewarding instead.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I feel this way about cooking. I hate cooking. It takes a lot of time. And lots of cleanup time. And time spent planning and shopping. Plus the tools, ingredients, and power/gas/water used all cost money. With all that in mind, a $9 bowl of chipotle is significantly cheaper by my estimation than cooking an equivalent myself.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I'm with you on cooking something like one meal. If I'm going to get out a bunch of stuff in the kitchen and put in that much effort, then I had better be eating for at least a few days off of what I make. Casseroles, stews, big pots of pasta, and holy hell was I excited when I learned how much curry I could make in one big crock pot and then put that on rice for like two weeks' worth of meals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just cook stuff that basically cooks itself. Crockpots, pasta, certain veggies and meats on the oven. After doing them many times I already know the timings for everything so I just put alarms to remind me of turning the fire off/flipping them in the oven once and that's it. Doing something else in between. Technically speaking you spend only a couple minutes actively cooking for each meal that way. Just don't forget to set the alarms or it's burnt (and move the particular meat from the freezer to the fridge the night before)

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Businesses have caught up and fixed the exploits.

For me, it's dried beans. Beans are an excellent source of protein and fiber, and it doesn't get much cheaper per serving than bulk dried beans.

But rinsing, soaking over night, and then boiling, only to end up with way more beans than we will consume, and canned beans are almost as good and almost as cheap.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We use a pressure cooker for our dried beans. 20-40 minutes depending on the bean. You don't have to soak them overnight when using a pressure cooker. I ensure that each batch we make is consumed within five days.

Canned beans are considerably more expensive based on the amount we eat.

If you only eat a can here and there, it's probably not worth making them from dry.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've found pressure cookers are the only way I can get beans tender. (I'm not a great cook.)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably not frugal, but instant pot changed my life, in regards to soaking beans. What a time/effort saver.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Searching for the cheapest gas station. Too much time and gas.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Australia there are apps that show cheapest prices near you, so at least there's not too much time and effort involved.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah good. Sorry. I'm traumatized by parents driving obsessively around for hours looking for best prices on things...obviously there are better ways now.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

There was a trick with the Caltex app where you can do a price lock and then get the fuel from any other Caltex station

What people would do is find the cheapest fuel in the country, use a fake GPS app to make the app think you are close by and lock in the price, then go to their local servo and use the locked in price. Saving 15/20c per litre.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Cloth nappies/diapers. Cleaning them is a black hole for personal time.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The manufacture of 2.5 years of disposable diapers has a lower carbon footprint than the energy usage to launder cloth diapers over the same time period.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/291130/scho0808boir-e-e.pdf

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's still a win if the energy source is renewable itself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What about the difference in waste as well? Talk about cherry-picking outcomes to make your product/position look good. It's like soft drinks advertising that they're fat-free or chips/crisps saying they're sugar-free

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally don't mind much using cloth diapers.

We quickly rince them after use so it does not smell unlike dirty diapers in the bin that start smelling after a day (we live in a hot country)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Flights with connections. Flying has become so tedious, frustrating, stressful, that saving money by spending yet more hours dealing with it, just isn’t worth it. I’d sooner cancel the trip

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I saved $500 per ticket on an international flight for my girlfriend and I and the extra connection should have only added a few hours to the trip.

Then they cancelled my flight, and I got stranded in another country (Canada), spent over 10 hours in the airport getting a new flight, lost two days of the trip, which were the best days, lost the money I paid for the hotel for those days, and I only get a few days off a year and that was how I spent several of them.

The Europeans and Canadians on the flight got their flight comped. Being an American, I had to fight for a meal ticket that didn't even cover the cost of two sodas. This was pre-pandemic too.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a little different from the others on this list, but a lot of DIY stuff for parties/weddings. The money you're saving is negated by time lost, not to mention unless you have unlimited time/ no job and are able to thrift everything, the components for DIY aren't that inexpensive. For my sister's wedding, we did everything ourselves. Everything from literally painting the venue, collecting/creating every table scape, my dad built the stage and dance floor, all the way through setting up the hundreds of little desserts on the day of. It was all wonderful and lovely. And took a massive amount of time and labor across several families. When you factor in the value of people's time, it was not less expensive than mine. We rented everything and it was so nice not to stress about dressing every corner of the room or decorating the bar, or making sure we didn't run out of ice on the day of. We still chose super frugal options because the wedding industry is a scam, but we just paid for everything.

Sometimes it's worth it just to pay people to do stuff. Value your time and mental health more than money.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not sure if this counts, per se, but Solar Panels. Specifically, via a loan.

My electric bill is insane, thanks to the powers of capitalism and monopoly. So I figured installing solar panels would be a good investment. Sure it takes ten years to break even, but I’d rather be paying my way through that than paying my electric utility.

Well, the problem I ran into was that the interest on a loan would effectively negate any headway I was hoping to make per month.

I still plan on doing solar, but not before either interest rates at least quarter themselves or I save up enough to practically pay for it up front.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depending on where you live, the feed in tariffs are a scam as well, so you better make sure you use any power you generate instead of feeding it back to the grid (either by shifting use or installing a battery).

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Growing your own food. The only way to make that shit pay is to groom a cult to do it for you, large-scale.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way to make that shit pay is to groom a cult to do it for you, large-scale.

They're called grand parents

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still buy the vast majority of my own food, but:

I've been eating the same $0.99 bell pepper going on three years now.

A $3 packet of jalapeno seeds has made a year's worth of taco tuesdays.

I'll never buy Mint again; I couldn't get rid of my patch of peppermint if I wanted to.

I can grow much better tomatoes than what you'll find at the local mega mart.

A $3 packet of okra seeds will thicken a year's worth of gumbo.

My little vegetable garden, which is smaller than my living room, yields somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 pounds of produce every year.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Growing your own greens and herbs is super easy with a hydroponic setup, but obviously you have to invest the time into getting it set up. There are a lot of pre-made options available these days, though, so it's not as much work as it used to be even just a few years back. Saves me a lot of trips to the grocery store.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cutting sponges in half. It just makes them harder to use, and then already last a long time and cost like $1 each. I'm not going out of my way to save ~$1/month.

Unplugging electronics. I have a kill-a-watt meter and did some math. It took more power for my computer to run the spreadsheet than I'd save by unplugging everything in my house. Electronics have gotten way better at managing phantom power draw.

And I'll second coupons. The only coupons I look at is the monthly Costco mailer, and I only really look at things I'll buy in bulk. I try to buy enough to last until the next sale, which has worked out pretty well so far. But I literally don't look at any other grocery store coupons because I just don't find much value there.

In fact, most of these frugal "tricks" are worthless. Just focus on the high value lifestyle choices (cooking at home instead of prepared meals, learning to DIY common repairs, etc), and ignore most of penny pinching. In other words, don't be penny wise and pound foolish.

That said, here are a couple of things that I do think are worthwhile even if the money savings isn't huge:

  • cut my own hair - takes 15-20 min once a month, which is less time than I'd spend getting to and from the barber; it's essentially free ($20-30 for clippers, which I've used for dozens of hair cuts), but $20/month saved isn't why I do it, I just hate going to the barber, it just seems to take so much time
  • change my car's oil - same as hair, it takes ~30 min, and most of that time I'm just sitting inside waiting for oil to drain; I don't save much money, but I do feel like I save time vs driving to/from the oil change place, and I use high equality OEM filters
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Never ever follow a cutting your own hair advice.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

My mom was a stylist. She showed me all the tricks, so I can do skin fades and the like. The back gets tricky sometimes, so I'm glad mullets are currently trendy.

Yeah, this response is pedantic as fuck but y'all can't make blanket statements like that!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

cut my own hair - takes 15-20 min once a month, which is less time than I'd spend getting to and from the barber; it's essentially free ($20-30 for clippers, which I've used for dozens of hair cuts), Where i live they do it under less than a $ ( i am a male)

If you really want to live frugal i suggest piracy is the way to go but maybe your morals don't allow it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cheapest food is always a massive rip off. It doesn't matter if you're willing to settle for something that doesn't taste as good. The cheapest food has been stripped down to such nothingness that you need to eat 3x more to stay alive. It doesn't work for the same reason you can't just drink water and feel full.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depends on what kind of food you’re talking about. Whole foods like potatoes, lentils and beans are filling, nutritious and inexpensive. Cheap processed foods frozen pizza are basically edible polyester.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The cheapest option is always cheapest for a reason. Incrementally so the amount cheaper it is than the average.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Doesn't necessarily mean it's cheaper for a bad reason though. There are often instances where the cheaper option can also be the better option.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always thought couponing looked obnoxious.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't care if I save $0.35 per grocery trip or $35. I really don't. And I'm definitely not wealthy! But when it comes to all those valuable pieces of paper, I've decided I'm not making the cashier scan and verify them one-by-one, the people behind me in line wait the extra time, the bookkeeper add them up and send them in, and then whatever clearing house wage-slave collect and destroy them.

I realize that sounds judgemental, but that's just my threshold. I genuinely feel everyone needs to decide how they want to live their life...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I worked for a big chain store. Like, a really big chain store, but not that one.

At the end of the night, they would collect all the coupons from the registers, weigh them, and throw them away.

The store would get credited based on the weight.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

my grocery store's app has a coupon section. I can scroll through them and add them to my loyalty card, so that they all get added to my order automatically. It's at least as valid a use of my time as playing Crossy Road. I don't use paper coupons.

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