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A programmer in northern China has been ordered to pay more than 1 million yuan to the authorities for using a virtual private network (VPN), in what is thought to be the most severe individual financial penalty ever issued for circumventing China's "great firewall." The programmer, surnamed Ma, was issued with a penalty notice by the public security bureau of Chengde, a city in Hebei province, on August 18. The notice said Ma had used "unauthorised channels" to connect to international networks to work for a Turkish company. The police confiscated the 1.058m yuan ($145,092) Ma had earned as a software developer between September 2019 and November 2022, describing it as "illegal income," as well as fining him 200 yuan ($27).

Charlie Smith (a pseudonym), the co-founder of GreatFire.org, a website that tracks internet censorship in China, said: "Even if this decision is overturned in court, a message has been sent and damage has been done. Is doing business outside of China now subject to penalties?"

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

The police confiscated the 1.058m yuan ($145,092) Ma had earned as a software developer between September 2019 and November 2022, describing it as "illegal income," as well as fining him 200 yuan ($27).

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you can't work for a Turkish company from China? Using a VPN is normal for work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If your company needs a VPN it needs to be approved by the government first.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

According to hexbear lemmy.ml and some other idiots: Nothing. This is actually a good thing. And in reality it's the US that is at fault

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Its basicly 1984. They brain wash there population and the government is the supreme authority

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The programmer, surnamed Ma, was issued with a penalty notice by the public security bureau of Chengde, a city in Hebei province, on 18 August.

Ma said the police seized his phone, laptop and several computer hard drives upon learning that he worked for an overseas company, holding them for a month.

Charlie Smith (a pseudonym), the co-founder of GreatFire.org, a website that tracks internet censorship in China, said: “Even if this decision is overturned in court, a message has been sent and damage has been done.

VPNs, which help users circumvent the “great firewall” of internet censorship by making it look as if their device is in a different country, operate in a legal grey area in China.

The government generally turns a blind eye to the relatively small number of individuals who use the technology to access websites such as Google, Facebook, Twitter and, often, view pornography.

In June, Radio Free Asia reported that a Uyghur student, Mehmut Memtimin, was serving a 13-year sentence in Xinjiang for using a VPN to access “illegal information”.


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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm often confused about China's laws.

If doing business outside of China is now illegal doesn't that rather undermine the basis of theur whole cheap manufacturing economy?