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Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Corporations and Republicans control the media. Putin deployed psyops on the social media of the bar room and bowling alley crowd. They controlled the narrative and will continue to control it until people wake up and realize they have become wage slaves who have a shit-hole standard of living.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what are you going to do about it next time? Otherwise the same thing will happen again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same thing they do every cycle. Move as far to the right as possible and tell anyone who doesn't like it that they will be voting as instructed because the alternative isn't second worst.

It doesn't matter that they have seen that strategy fail twice against the same guy. Centrists would rather have fascism than move to the left for any reason on any issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I honestly didn't hear many lefty policies

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (14 children)

In a capitalist society, the role of government should be to protect citizens from corporations.

If nobody is willing to do that, what use are they?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Dems will keep losing until they figure out which demographics they can't afford to betray.

They thought LGBT and women would buy the last election and betrayed Unions, Nortenios, and Muslims. Like it wouldn't have a consequence, then they lost the southwest (Nortenio) and midwest (Union and Muslim).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not a zero sum game, you can court LGBT and other demographics as well at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Yep, like Trump does it. Just change your message depending on the exact crowd you're talking to. It just requires a level of cynicism that the Democrats (and civilized people in general) seem to find distasteful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they'll keep backing their corporate funders until the people bail on them and all move to a different political organization. Someday.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Left vs right or democrat vs republican — that framing is a distraction in this political reality. The war is between the 99% and the 1%. It’s the working class vs the billionaire class. Your republican neighbor may be a MAGA religious crazy, voting against his financial interests, but he’s been successfully manipulated by a corrupt party controlled by billionaires. Your other neighbor may ‘vote blue no matter who’, ignoring or ignorant to the fact that most democrats at the state and federal level are also influenced or bought by corporate interests and the 1%. These neighbors are clearly not the same, but they are both supporting the interests and agenda of a billionaire class that is oppressing them.

That is not to say that republicans or religious extremism are not threats — they very much are — but they have been allowed to gain power due to a broken and corrupt system of government.

The system is broken because unlimited money gets funneled into politics. It’s destroyed our checks and balances, as well as the incentive structure for our judges and our representatives — most of whom no longer have a primary interest in representing the 99% of us. We are being taxed, robbed, poisoned, oppressed and enslaved by our own government, without even proper representation to show for it.

We cannot expect that our elected representatives will act in our best interests; they require our constant input and scrutiny of their actions. Either we as a people become more involved with politics at all levels of government, or we start a revolution. The problem of corruption in all levels of our government will not be solved by the corrupted. A continuation and increase of wealth inequality will destroy this country.

The corporate-backed fascist MAGA-America regime starts tomorrow, but we are not powerless. The 99% has power. We must come together, organize, educate, exercise empathy and patience with one another, and take action; we can take back control. We have to.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Neoliberalism is done, it's fucked. The liberals wanted and thought they could pull another Bernie and people would just go with it, fuck that.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago

We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests

Evergreen quote-

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Democrat aristocracy do not care about winning.

They only care about marketing the disaster of their losses so that they can launder billions of dollars in "vote blue" spam campaigns.

All those donations are going somewhere - to "consultancy firms". To "ad agencies". And then they get to enjoy kickbacks from this mutual relationship.

THEY DON'T NEED TO WIN TO RAKE IN BILLIONS.

and so they don't even try.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

This right here. Ask yourself which stocks do both republicans and democrats own.

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