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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago) (1 children)

this is by far my favorite way of browsing the internet nowadays. if they find a way to monetize or kill RSS, i'm getting off the internet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 53 minutes ago

I think it would be hard to re-invent RSS for money, it's part of why it's so simple.

RSS as a service makes sense for backend, not front end where most of the money would be made.

And killing RSS is... Kinda here? It's difficult to get a RSS feed on most websites, unless you can scrape it or find someone who's done it for you.

Man I should use RSS more...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Small tip for anyone using Thunderbird as a mail client, it supports RSS feeds! And you can import/export them too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

Great post, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

The hardest part is when you have to curate by yourself. To me RSS feels like a lot of work upfront. Is there a tool to help discover items to add to your feed aligned with your interest?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

You can try mine as a starting point if you like. It covers most subject areas, has categories so that you can easily delete the categories you don't care about. Just import the OPML file to any client you like. I like feedly personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You start with vlogs you like.

Then see who they have in their blog roll.

More seriousl, I have literally used RSS regular since like 2006 or so. And I will NEVER forgive Google for killing Reader.

Anyway, what I mean to say is, its just a growing process. Someone links an article and you say, "Well, this sote seems interesting" and you stick it in your RSS reader.

Next thing you know you are pulling 1000-2000 articles a day, even with limiting filters.

One last bit of advice. Most systems let you export your subs.

DO THIS FROM TIME TO TIME BECAUSE YOU WILL HATE YOUR PAST SELF WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND YOU LOSE ALL YOUR SUBS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I went the Local RSS Reader -> Google Reader -> Feedly -> Self-hosted FreshRSS myself. Kinda went full circle on this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Feedly does a great job of that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago
  • Look around in your online communities and see what publications get shared.
  • Once you find some sites you like, search the web/communities for alternatives with the same topic/vibe.
  • If you find journalists you like, see where else they publish their works, or what publications they used to work at. For bloggers / content creators, see who they collaborate with.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

This is where I've struggled. I've gone and tried once or twice and just kinda got confused and lost and came back to reddit, at that time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I used Feedly since Google Reader was shut down. Then 1.5 years ago, as Feedly was getting more paywalls and AI-crap, I switched to Newsblur, and have been a happy user ever since. I love its Intelligence Trainer that lets me hide posts with certain tags/authors/keywords.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Algorithms done right are useful. Make sure things that are likely important to be bubble to the top. I don't have time to read/watch it all, so prioritize the important things for me.

Done right is the hard part. It is too easy to prioritize memes that make people angry even though if you really investigate you discover that while there is a little truth it is grossly exaggerated and whoever is being mocked isn't that stupid - because things that make people mad tend to get attention.

The algorithm really needs a "there is plenty more but you have seen all the important stuff - go outside and do something" after I've seen what is important. Of course it then needs a "but I'm currently confined to a hospital bed so just show me something so I'm not bored out of my mind". The likes of facebook of course cannot allow such a thing as once you stop scrolling their ad revenue is gone. However that is what the world needs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

The problem isn’t the algorithm just because it’s an algorithm, even chronological sort is technically an algoritim.

The problem is closed source algorithms with no user choice that implement dark patterns and other addictive and psychologically abusive tactics to make users engage with their app as much as possible

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t personally have any issue with algorithms - they work quite well for me, though it does require some active management. For example, if I watch one or two 30-second videos on YouTube, it quickly starts recommending more, which quickly floods my feed. However, when I start ignoring those recommendations, despite the temptation to click, the algorithm eventually stops pushing them and shifts back to suggesting accurately tailored, long-form content that genuinely interests me. The same goes for using the “not interested” button. This aligns with my experience on platforms like Twitter and Instagram as well, though the latter I no longer use.

Algorithms obviously don’t care whether the content they show you makes you glad that you saw it. They simply serve what captures your attention. If it's outrage, then that’s exactly what you’ll get. The algorithm knows plenty of other users engage with that kind of content, so it rationally assumes the same will apply to you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

If it's outrage, then that’s exactly what you’ll get

I don't know how fix this, but this is one of the things a good algorithm needs to prevent. Outrage does get my attention - but it isn't where I want my attention.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The companies deploying the algorithms aren't taking any of what you said into consideration though. They only want to feed you what has the most interaction as that can garner the most money from ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Would be nice if open-source aggregators like Lemmy allowed users to "Subscribe" to community developed algorithms.

I'd love to (attempt) to build an "ethical" algorithm for content sorting, have it be open-source, and be able to have clients use it without having to actually modify the client itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Reddit used to (might still, don't use it) let you get every page as an RSS feed. Front page, people you follow, individual subreddits.

Lemmy could do that, I'd really enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

There's nothing preventing you from forking a Lemmy client or server to prototype this. Depending on how you implement the activitypub backend, you might be able to make it transparent to a user if you present an algorithm as an array of cross posts via a /c/ of a server.

Anything more might require forking a client, which might be easier to implement but may be harder to convince a large userbase to migrate to.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I use self hosted FreshRSS. I has:

  • news straight from the section I care about in chronological order order
  • new blog updates
  • music review updates
  • Bandcamp releases from artists/labels I follow
  • open source software releases I follow
  • YouTube updates from channels I follow.
  • etc

It is by far the best way to get updates about just the things you care about.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago

I started using FreshRSS around the same time Reddit killed their API, it has rapidly become one of my favorite self-hosted apps.

Also,

open source software releases I follow

You have just taught me that I can add github release pages to my feed, I love FreshRSS even more now.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, Joey, don't say that shit out loud. Once they realize that there is a way to access content that isn't sufficiently monetized, they will block it. Keep it secret!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The content creators should be shouting about RSS from the rooftops. The only people that lose out are social networks, and startups. It would be more difficult for a new person to get a foothold, but at least we decide what we want to read on our own.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I remember youtube creators recommending other creators small channels and stuff like that. I want that back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Hard agree. I've had Gamers Nexus introduce me to a few channels but none have been small. I entirely skipped YouTube for most of my life so I missed the small town feel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've greatly enjoyed FeedFlow ( github or the official site ) as my reader since it's minimalistic and just looks so polished. Almost fully cross platform as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Thanks! I like it a lot.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Please do recommend RSS apps for all platforms. Currently using:

Android: Read You iOS/Mac: Unread

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Newsblur in desktop web browser, 36 USD / year

It has a FLOSS version and a more limited free version hosted by them, but the 2.5 GBP / month was worth the QoL increase for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I’ve been using Feedly on iOS for a few years since google dropped their rss client.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Was on Feedly, have now moved to News Explorer for iOS. Self hosted (runs on device), synchronizes between iOS devices using iCloud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I used Feedly for a bit but they were extremely pricey. They didn't have a free tier back then.

For their €7/month price you can rent a VPS and selfhost FreshRSS with a lot more stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

At the point, might as well build your own home server 😂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I'm using feeder on android and it's working well for me. On desktop I use Firefox extension but can't remember the name

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Algorithms have the advantage of finding stuff for me that i wouldn't have even thought to look for. Is there any thing with RSS that sufficiently mimicks this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

No. They're two different tools. the article misses the point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean you have to subscribe to a feed to be able to see it and I don’t see how RSS could sync a feed you don’t even know about. I suppose if someone started a platform that everyone used to sync their feeds then people could uncover content from the RSS feeds of other users but that seems to take the really simple out of really simple sync (RSS)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Thunderbird has RSS channels you can use and set-up (if you use the e-mail client, it is convenient).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

I remember Google Reader back in the day. I miss that a lot. Is there something comparable that I don't have to host?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

Newsblur is the one I migrated to and haven’t looked back.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There are good RSS reader web browser extensions. Firefox has a few. Check out Feedbro.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Very cool! Thanks for making this and sharing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Is there a recommended, shiny RSS reader for Linux and Android? Which I want to try?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I use feeder installed via Fdroid. It sends me notifications that send me straight to the content. I rarely have to actually open the app. No complaints!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

+1 for feeder

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

I use Newsblur, it’s a web site and will fetch feeds even if my computer is offline.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I use quiterss on my linux desktop. Its already in the repos on debian and works great for me. I have extremely minimalistic requirements tho, so might not be for you if you want a shiny UI. It has tagging, custom keyword filtering, folders, notifications. All i need.

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