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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Wait... I thought Proton was owned by Valve.

Oh well, anyone know a cheap yet reliable VPN I can switch too?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Little guys? Like Coca Cola?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago

I hope you all see thru Trump's Big Tech bullshit. It's not to reign them in to make America competitive - or whatever other horseshit he spews out of that asshole he calls a mouth. It's to get rid of the others so that he controls and censors the fuck out of the only avenue of social communication like his handlers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago

Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can't believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust... I was like bro okay in done.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

🤦 Can we get this in actual text or maybe a cool link to the actual content for those of us who need it for accessibility & the rest of us who don't like trying to read pixelated garbage? Screenshots of text are such a scourge. 😭

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 hours ago

Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can't trust anyone this stupid with privacy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Who gives a shit? Proton is one of the best companies when it comes to privacy, why should I care about the CEO's political views?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 hours ago

Well thats a fuckin shame.

Good to know. Bye Proton.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"worked in media at Fox" the TV Cabinet expands! Yikes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

It's all just propaganda. Media people will be helpful in that endeavor.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.

I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Was about to pay for proton. Not now

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Unfortunately I made the mistake of really digging myself into the Proton ecosystem.

My current plan is:

VPN -> Mullvad

Mail -> Tuta

Pass -> Bitwarden (not sure if I want to host yet)

Drive -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)

Calendar -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)

Standard Notes -> Memos (Self-Hosted) (already done)

Simple Login -> no fucking clue, I am dreading migrating these.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I was JUST about to take that plunge myself.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I use Proton mail, any recommendations for alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago

If encryption is a must, then use Tuta. German company, privacy focused, open source all around, no surveillance, free tier with encryption available, encrypted calendars, accessible paid subscriptions with actually useful services.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Posteo

Keep a proton for situations where you can actually use the encryption. Most of the time the encryption is as useless as a VPN.

Also keep in mind all it is is pgp with a directory lookup. I think proton made their pgp directory lookup more open in the last few years, so it may not have any real benefits.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Just canceled my subscription and let them know in the comments it was because of this.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago

I did the same. Also mailed them asking to cancel my account and refunding me the remaing balance.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's a shame. As soon as my current VPN ran out, I was going to give them some money. I guess he should have kept his MAGA thoughts to himself.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

Same, especially because I can't get on Pornhub without one anymore!

Definitely no conflict of interest from this chode.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Mentioning that Democrats are trash on dealing with corporations is just fine. Good, even.

Lying through your god damn teeth that Republicans are going to do anything other than lie to gain more leverage for their jihad to fuck over their fellow man is delusional at best.

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[–] [email protected] 212 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

And you seem to have forgotten that Trump's Attorney General William Barr tried to force backdoors in encryption.

So shut the fuck up Andy, you're out of your element.

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[–] [email protected] 184 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Getting real fuckin tired of having to always find 'alternatives'. Can't yall rich bastards just stop being weird and be content with making good products. Just cause you have money, doesn't mean you need to have a public opinion on anything, ever

[–] [email protected] 83 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

This is what I feel is the core problem of out-of-bounds capitalism today. 50-80 years ago there were fabulously wealthy people as well, but they were taxed out the wazoo and were still fabulously wealthy. And even though every corporation's goal is, and always has been, to make profit, it feels as if it's gone from "profit" to "maximum possible profit at ALL costs, including the damnation of life on the planet".

We have plenty of examples of hypercapitalism destroying us in fiction (cyberpunk etc.) but our current reality is really really close to that hellscape. In some ways it's actually worse because of the insidiousness and banality of the evil that lords over us daily.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I'll be leaving Proton fucking immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like I'm stuck with nord and their shitass torrent support lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

This wouldn't have anything to do with US internet restrictions would it? Like how multiple states place age verification on porn sites? Like how more restrictions would pop up in a MAGA admin to keep it "safe".

That wouldn't benefit Proton at all now would it? They don't serve a product that would circumvent those restrictions right? A product they sell?

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

I'd like to know what maga is going to do for the little guy besides more grifting.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck. I was procrastinating on buying into their VPN and drive service to de-googlify. Looks like that's off the menu and I am deleting all my burner accounts now. Fucking bruh.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If there's a way for the rest of Proton to force him out, now would be a good time to save face.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

Here is our official response [...] the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

lol

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