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Elon Musk, co-head of the Department of Government Efficiency under Donald Trump’s advisory team, revised his claim of finding $2 trillion in federal budget cuts to a “best-case outcome” of $1 trillion.

Musk’s earlier target, dismissed as unrealistic by experts, had included the entire discretionary budget of $1.7 trillion.

While Musk and co-lead Vivek Ramaswamy plan to recommend cuts, specifics remain unclear.

Experts warn savings may require targeting mandatory programs like Medicaid, potentially causing hardships.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If they go after Medicaid or Medicare it might bring more attention to how fucked up insurance is for Americans. I don't want them to be empowered to make any suggestions, but this might just bring a tense situation to a head.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

$2 Trillion was more than the discretionary budget of the US. It literally couldn't be done.

Which is why it was a stupid promise and literally anyone with any expertise could tell you that. Which shows you how unserious Musk is about this.

Now that he cut the promise in half and it's still politically impossible but not literally impossible, I reiterate my request...say how you plan to do it. Give us a rough idea what programs are being cut, even the easiest 20%.

By having the conversation about the number alone, we're buying his political premise. The money is not there for no reason, these are democratically popular government programs, that's why they exist. So which popular programs are you getting rid of to save this money?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Likely because he refuses to put his own stuff under that microscope

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

of course you can't you stupid fuck.

fucking troglodyte pretends he's iron man when he can't do basic arithmetic.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can we take a moment to acknowledge a few billionaires made their own government department, and people are just rolling with it?

They're a random private company. Why are we just letting that fact slide???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Because the media is owned by that same billionaire class

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Man who lies endlessly caught lying again. More at 7.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously what an unexpected outcome....

The one trillion difference needs to be paid back from his salary and a potential salary claw back for this underperformance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I think he isn't getting a salary, apart from whatever gains he reaps by removing roadblocks for his companies.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Elon is such a dumbass.

Edit: I'm sorry, *President Elon is such a dumbass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

People made a big deal about Michelle Obama missing Jimmy Carter's funeral. Why wasn't President Elon there? Hmmm. Why isn't that being covered?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I want to join truth social just to call out "president Elon"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

And Trump won't bring down grocery prices. I really wish Americans were smarter. It's going to be a rough ride. At least I'm not going to have to subscribe to the NYT to see the obituary that I want to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

It’ll be 2 million, and way less than the amount the DOGE department manages to embezzle itself.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Wherever he cut, you can safely assume it will only hit the people at the bottom, not those at the top.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

It will hit whatever annoys him, his companies and that extends to everybody who kisses his ring sufficiently.

But yes, social and worker protections probably match that criteria.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Whatever supports his companies

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

i’m actually kind of shocked he admitted this. isn’t his usual strategy to promise super unrealistic things, not deliver, and then make the same promise the next year?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Indeed, but I bet he isn't used to hide things in the public. This is a federal budget, not yet another of his corporations. I bet he knows the very best accountants but that's just different.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago

If he cuts anything it’ll be support for middle class and poor people and itll be jack shit, it will fuck everything up and it will be touted by clowns as a success.

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Anyone who actually believed they would find $2 trillion was an idiot, the rest of us knew they'd just cut the things they hate, bump the subsidies that favor them and their friends, and call it a day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

I expect them to privatize and then somehow claim they cut the budget because they are paying a private company instead of running whole departments themselves (govt)

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Your comment will age poorly when Trump’s tarrifs lead to a collapsing economy and he prints money like mad to solve it, resulting in hyper-inflation letting President Musk keep his election promise.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

The funny thing is....it's not like their voters would care if they lied. They could literally say "We cut the budget by $17 trillion by making sure the trans kids don't get surgeries!" And their voters would fucking cheer.

They wouldn't look deep enough to actually care what they cut.

So the question is why even make this announcement? I'm guessing it's a distraction from something else.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember when he landed people on Mars in 2022?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when Tesla released fully autonomous self driving cars?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

That was way back in 2014, hard to imagine a world without them now! It's how I take my cybercab to the hyperloop to get to work!

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 day ago (13 children)

This doesn't look good for Elon. Lucky for him that he's the president.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago

I'm shocked, SHOCKED by this revelation!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It's all going to be healthcare / social safety nets, and it's going to be dwarfed by the tax cuts Trump gives people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oh please, you're not even going to get $100 billion without stepping on some toes in the Military-Industrial complex, and that's going to make you some lifelong political enemies.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago

Those two clowns couldn't find their own asses in a dark room with both hands and a flashlight.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gasp. Lying cunt lied cuntily.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Musk’s earlier target, dismissed as unrealistic by experts, had included the entire discretionary budget of $1.7 trillion.

FFS! There's probably TODDLERS who know more about how the government works than Musk! 🤦

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

I've always said there were 4 types of people (besides average)

  1. Genius that knows they are a genius
  2. The Genius that doesn't know they are a genius
  3. The idiot that knows they are an idiot
  4. The idiot that thinks they are a genius

The most dangerous one, and the one you don't ever want to work for is #4. That's where Musk is.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago

Sounds like they’re not an efficient use of government resources and should be cut

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man, it’s almost like he has no idea what he’s talking about or something. Definitely a good candidate to be making policy decisions affecting millions of people.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If allowed, Elon will find trillions to funnel to himself and Trump's cronies however.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Never fear rich people and corporations - Trump is still going to do another $2T tax cut regardless.

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