this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2025
67 points (97.2% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27391 readers
1400 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected]. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected] or [email protected]


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Context is that I had to register for a lot of accounts recently and some of the rules really make no sense.

Not name-and-shaming, but the best one I've seen recently is I might have accidentally performed an XSS attack on a career portal using a 40-digit randomly generated password...

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

By far the worst is the costa rican national bank:

  • Must be between 8 and 16 characters long
  • Must have at least 4 letters and 4 numbers
  • Can't have consecutively repeated characters (can't do "aa" but can do "aba")
  • Can't have vowels or Ñ
  • Must not be one of your last 6 passwords
  • Must be changed every 90 days
  • Also forgot that their website and app try to block password managers and copy and paste
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My favorite is a major credit card company with case-insensitive passwords. They also only allow a small handful of special characters, so the total possible character space is roughly 42 characters. Needless to say, I chose to use a password that was the maximum allowed length (which was sadly also only 32 characters).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If it was a fully random password that’s still plenty of entropy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Except that's not the issue. This clearly reeks of the passwords not being hashed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Six numbers only.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I had to log back into an account for an app (I think Taco Bell) that decided to remove passwords entirely without any notice. You typed in your email address, had to open your email account and click a link they sent you, it would open a webpage, which would then have a button to open the app again. If I remember correctly too, it would only work on Chrome, so I had to copy and paste the link since Chrome isn't my default browser that automatically opens from my mobile email.

Besides that, I remember some website required a special character from an extremely small list and wouldn't allow two of the same letter back-to-back.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago

Not sure if it falls under the same category, but the way Activision handles (handled? I haven't used them since) passwords was atrocious! I had to reset my password to get back into my account, I used a random diceware password, it accepted it. However! The client on both Windows and Xbox wouldn't let you input a password longer than I believe 20 characters. So while you can set a 25 character password, you can go fuck yourself if you actually wanna log in...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago

My work was using some MS-based account system, but I don't know if this was stock or something they modified. When you had to change your password, it would tell you if your new password didn't meet the password requirements, as usual. What it wouldn't tell you was what those requirements were...

So yeah, the requirements the system won't tell you about would have to be the worst one i came across...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Stupid bank app doesn't allow password managers... and if you hit the enter button to login you get an error message informing you that you need to mouse click on the button.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

you get an error message

The person responsible for that specific behavior is a psychopath.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Here's how to improve it:

Make you have to mouse click the button. However, it has to be a right click. Specifically, a right double-click.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

DOUBLE RIGHT-CLICK THE BUTTON?!? ARE YOU MAD?!?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago

I had a wi-fi device a few years ago that would require a password up to 12 characters, but that requirement wasn’t explicitly written anywhere. The device would gladly accept a 13-character password, for example, but you would never be able to log in again (factory-resetting was the only way to undo).

More recently I purchased a Lennox HVAC system that came with their proprietary thermostat (an Android tablet with a wall mount). During the Christmas break I got myself a new wi-fi router and had to reconfigure all my wireless devices. After 2 days, the Lennox thermostat was the last device to join the new wi-fi network… and it failed because their password could have any character EXCEPT the asterisk — and my new password had an asterisk. I didn’t like the idea of redoing all my other devices AGAIN just because of this idiotic password rule, so I ended up creating a new SSID just for the thermostat. I named it LENNOXSUCKS.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

One special character.

Seems logic right? Until you get that it is one and one only. Took me some time.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Probably the silliest thing I have run into was some game. It asked you to set two passwords. You needed both to login. The second password couldn't be changed. This is why it was secure, see. (...What.)

When I created my account and set the second password, I couldn't log on the second time. Because I had entered a 20 character second password. It was accepted and verified during the account creation just fine. On the second login, it only accepted 16 characters. (It let you enter 20 characters but said it was too long.) Trying to enter first 16 characters of the second password didn't work, of course.

I then contacted the support, and they did manage to reset the second password anyway. (What is this even)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

The Catholic Church is doing great with its two popes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I volunteer at a local high school and the students password is their birthday, because they are given their account at age 5, in kindergarten, and it's something you can reasonably expect a 5 year old to remember. Also, the students are not allowed to change their password unless they get "hacked", which is usually just another student logging into their account and deleting their assignments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

A school I used to work at had a folder with student passwords for various services at the front of the computer lab. If a student forgot their password for a service, they just went and looked in the folder. Maybe they’d even get their mates’ passwords for them while they were at it!

I did try to get the policy changed, and offered to teach staff and students how to use a password manager, but apparently remembering a single password was far too complicated, and it would make it much harder if you needed to log in to someone else’s account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Max length of something under 18 …

Irks my gears

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

I add to make a password last fall that had the requirement "numerals or special characters". A password with both numerals and special characters wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Password needs one special character.
Not at least one. Exactly one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Worked somewhere that required security clearance that used your national insurance number (UK equivalent to SSN) as your login id. Most people in the UK do not memorise their NI number.

Password had to be uppercase and lowercase letters, numbers, and special characters, I think at least 12? Couldn't have back to back special characters or start or end with numbers. No whole words, either.

So now you have to remember two strings of letters and numbers. Sackable offensive to write either down. I once got a phone call from security because I would miss enter my password after lunch first time around, just once a day, but they rang me up still to see what going on.

Security there was a nightmare, worked with an obviously disabled guy, who forgot to put his disabled badge on his car dashboard and they threatened to ban him from site (which would result in the sack as you couldn't work remotely). The kicker was that they said we know you forgot to put the badge out, so they knew he was disabled as all car registrations are preregistered only way onsite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Most people in the UK do not memorise their NI number.

Spend enough time talking to HMRC or DWP, and it just happens.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My old bank required you to have a password 12 characters long exactly, and to login you have to give the characters in specific places.

I would ask you what are the 4th, 7th, and 11th letters of your password.

Anyone want to guess why that aren't my bank anymore?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

So like a 3 letter password but with extra steps?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

E and U and 2

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, mine has that as one of the options, but they've beefed it up a little. You also have to enter your date of birth and then they send a text to a pre-arranged number with a further 6-digit PIN that also has to be used.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

The worst I've ever seen was a site that required passwords to be 4 digits.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not so much password requirements as just a completely removed implementation:

To access payment stubs in a data center (not us) that I worked at, the user account was our public email address and the password was a personal code, sorta like SSN, but that code could be easily looked up as it was public info.

I showed the director of HR, who authorized this her own payment stub as evidence that this was baaaaadddd

So she asked me to check that system for more issues

Turns out it stored passwords in blank (wtf) and would authenticate with two queries. First query would check if the username (email) exists. Second query would check if the password exists. If both exists, you're in! So i could login to any account with MY password...

This is a tip of a very big iceberg there

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This has to be the best one here. The sheer lack of understanding of how to authenticate an account by the dev.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Sounds like the initial part of password testing, and then they either forgot to complete it, or someone came along to fix the later parts, commented them out for testing and never got around to fixing/uncommenting. Surprising how often things that 'work' are set aside and no one is in charge of reviewing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I hate any password requirement that says "special characters" but has a list of exceptions, like no . , ! ; or empty spaces. Just tell the user to make a passphrase, enforce at least one empty space and, dunno, 25 characters minimum, and bam. It's not like hackers try brute force anymore, they just hack insecure DBs full of user data and use that everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What's the difference between a password and a passphrase?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Pass phrase is made up of many words. A password can be anything

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The oddest I've ever encountered: EXACTLY 15 characters long. No more, no fewer. 15.

Honorable mention: Various online accounts where I used my password manager to generate a long, secure password, which the website accepted without warning or error. I was then locked out because their user management system could not handle such long passwords (had to create a second account with a much shorter password to find that out) 🤣

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago
  1. There was the multi user operating system in the 1990s that required every user to have a unique password. We were young and innocent then and used common English words. Upon changing your password, it would check your new password against all other users. An error like

That password is already used by johnp. Please choose another password.

was not uncommon.

  1. When I started using a password manager, I got keen and changed my passwords to 64 random characters. My bank would change this to uppercase, delete special characters, and save the first 8 characters of what was left. So when I logged in, it would compare the 64 character password I entered to the converted 8 character password that they saved, and find that they were different. (I found this out when I rang and complained, and they told me my password over the phone … 😱). They don’t do that any more.
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not allowing you to paste a password, so you have to type it manually every time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve noticed this with ACH routing forms on many financial websites. You can’t copy the routing number nor account number—no—thou shalt key in by hand instead.

Never understood the logic here, do the developers want you to make a mistake?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The'logic' behind it is that if you copy/paste, then the confirmation box is basically useless. If you copied the wrong account of just part of it, your for sure going to paste in the exact same thing without really checking. Not that it's a good reason, but at least there's some logic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Well if you’re going to hijack my paste command just hide the confirmation box ¯_(ツ)_/¯

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Passwords that must contain a special character, but only from a list of three special characters.

Passwords that must be changed every 3 months.

Absurdly narrow length requirements, im 80% sure I saw one that required 8-16 characters.

All dictionary words were banned from being in a password regardless of length, so passphrases weren't allowed.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wikipedia's minimum password length is 1 character

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

My community colleges:

Passwords must be 12 characters long, contain at least one uppercase letter, one lowercase letter, a number, and a special character; it must also be changed every 30 days. There was also some sort of alogarithm that checked if your new password is too similar to any previous password you had used, and rejected it if it was too close.

Hilariously, if you had a link to the page the password was supposed to limit access to, you could bypass the password page entirely. As such, I never changed my password.

load more comments
view more: next ›