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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Narrator: it was actually a 14 year old idiot

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The combined age of hexbear is about 45.

Even the MEGA lot are amusingly insane. But hexbear posters always strike me as just fundamentally uneducated quite possibly because their voices haven't broken yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's quite uncanny how they can cite a bunch of random socialist essays, but are completely unable to contextualize them within a boarder political science framework.

It's so easy to recognize, because I legit remember going through that phase as a teenager where I would lecture my AP history about the most recent Chomsky chapter I'd read that week, while he patiently waited for me to finish embarrassing myself to quiety demonstrate I had no idea what I was talking about. So far this has been basically every interaction I've had with hexbears.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think everyone goes through a communist phase but gets out of it when they grow up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Or a right libertarian phase, both are fine as long as they end in high school.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

You know, the funny thing is, they'd probably love Israel if it wasn't vaguely Western-aligned. They've already shown themselves to adore ethnic cleansing and not care one whit about economic policies; all Israel needs to do is swap the blue on its flag for some red, and tankies will fall over themselves to praise it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Praising the man who killed your past queers and jews. total insanity.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Tankies gonna tank. But also it's kinda hard to find a culture that hasn't at some point been antisemitic anti lgtbq+ and/or antitrans.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is, however, fairly easy not to praise people who were instrumental in worsening antisemitism or anti-LGBTQ sentiment in their era and nation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Truer words have never been said.

I do find it a bit odd that Stalin persecuted the gay Mafia in Russia. One would think that he'd of been fine with it as long as they weren't actively or being seen to undeone him or the USSR.

Christians have a (shitty) reason for doing it. They see it as part of their religion (while ignoring everything else the religion says like God saying he'll judge people, not people judge people) but what reason did strain have? Y'know?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It was a very convenient accusation that preyed on pre-existing prejudices in society, allowing Stalin to marginalize and eliminate potential rivals by accusing them of 'bourgeois degeneracy'.

Dictators rarely have a "Live and let live" attitude. They seek to reinforce prejudices that do not threaten them as a means of redirecting anger and dissatisfaction at weakened minorities instead of the authoritarian regime.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia has a long cultural history of glorifying the patriarchal strong-man leader, and all of their leaders, regardless of ideology, have exploited it to some degree.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, sorry can you expand on the "gay mafia?" Was there an organized group of The Gays or was it more like some leaders being outed and having that used against them? Or something completely different lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Alphabet Mafia, casual term for the LGBTQ community

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Gay Mafia is my preferred term for referring to the LGBTQ+ community. It rolls off the tongue quicker and sounds cooler.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost like we shouldn't be aligning our entire personalities with political parties/movements and use logic and compassion to make choices and decisions as they present themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Preach friend!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is, yeah. But Stalin regularly gulag'd queers and jews throughout his reign.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No arguments here, Stalin was a horrific person towards both of those communities so praising him while being a part of the communities is jfc levels of what even are you doing.

My brain had decided to just bring up the other point for some reason, not certain why. It does that from time to time.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terminally online beef with the site: banned

It's nice to be acknowledged. 😊

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny that they say that, as if they can really do anything about us and others talking about them. All they can do is shut us out, they can't shut us up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can certainly shut us up. There's been a few attempts on this community before. Doxxing, ddosing, bots, spam, whole lot of it--rather annoying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well obviously they haven't been too sucessful otherwise we wouldn't still be talking about them. Ultimately without the ability to physically stop us from posting they won't be able to effectively shut us up, only attempt to dissuade us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me if Lemmy.ml defederates from the entirety of SJW.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They've kind of shot themselves in the foot though. I'm sure they want to do that but they have so many communities that are on the platform that don't really prescribe to their core philosophy that they receive huge backlash if they actually did that.

I actually wish they would try it, as it would be really funny.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lesbian, Jew and Trans?

Yeah fucking right. Nazi neckbeard larping more like that's too damn on the nose. Missing "Satanist" in the mix too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't question gender identity. Either edit or delete your comment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm questioning if they're a real human.

It's too damn on the nose. That profile is exactly what a Ben Shapiro-type would post if he was larping as a "woke liberal". It's too damn fake.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Typical.

Let their red-fash horde destroy these fools. You don't have to assist, they are bringing on their own downfall and I find it hilarious.

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