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it bothers me that so many commenters are excited about the idea of people suffering.
I'm not excited, but I lost all empathy for fellow Americans who voted Trump this election. They will get what they voted for.
Voter anxieties about these shifts are growing.
Oh, NOW they're concerned? Not when we were all beating the drum telling these morons that Trump was going to fuck the country again?
God.
Yes but what about the trans people? Surely it will be worth losing their food stamps and Healthcare to ensure that trans people suffer, for some reason.
Low income voters who supported Trump deserve what he does to them.
It's not like he was secretive about how he was going to hose them?
Some people are more concerned about punishing the people they don't think deserve things that they'll let themselves get caught up in the same bullshit.
“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” Mosura, 55, said on a recent afternoon. “I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”
Oh. My. God.
How are these people real?
I wish I could offer them some solace, but I can't. They are absolutely fucked. We are all fucked. This is going to take decades to recover from, and that's assuming we even can.
If you vote for trump you deserve him.
"He's not going to hurt the poor. He's too smart for that."
Oh, you infuriating fucking summer child. It'd be hilarious if I wasn't stuck in this hellbound handbasket with the rest of you fucking mongoloids.
That's their logic .... they weren't thinking "He's not going to hurt the poor" ....
They were thinking "He's not going to hurt ME! He's going to hurt other people I don't like."
I've actually heard Maga people admit they'll get hurt by these policies, but immigrants and homos will get hurt MOAR!, y'know, like Jesus taught, so it's cool.
Yep. The GOP has worked tirelessly for decades to convince people that we are not capable of helping everyone. That it's a zero-sum game, and someone else receiving something means that another more deserving person (AKA straight/white/cis/etc.) must be deprived of the thing.
Therefore, since our government is incapable of providing for all, in their minds (because the Republicans have made sure of it), then the next best thing is making sure nobody gets the thing. Especially someone who doesn't "deserve" it.
Good ol American rugged individualism.
A friendly reminder that "mongoloid" is a racist pejorative, and that the government of Mongolia literally ran a campaign decades ago to get people to stop doing it.
I did not know that and will adjust accordingly.
As much as I respect Ghengis Khan and his ilk, I will not stop listening to that Devo song.
Well they deserve their benefits unlike those other poors who are in a bad spot due to their own faults.
Fuck these people. May you reap what you sow.
The bad thing is we all reap what they sow.
Sigh. I know. But I'm not going into this shitstorm blind like these fools.
I bought goggles.
I’m afraid given their history of predicting the future that The Simpsons have already answered this.
That was the answer I was hoping for lmao.
We are all Radioactive Man for the foreseeable future.
I hate how this is always on fucking point. These people don't have empathy until it affects them in a personal way, then all of a sudden it's "who let this happen?!"
It was you, you fucking dipshits, by not having the emotional intelligence to be able to think for one second in another person's shoes or think out the end conclusion to a piece of rhetoric.
That’s the party of personal responsibility for you.
Now they’re concerned?
Also, killing Mexicans and Palestinians is still fine. They're just worried about their benefits.
I don't fully blame them. Our systems of news in this country are so bad that you can't hold them responsible, because they're in no way fully aware of what a nightmare Trump is going to be. But if their benefits is what wakes them up, with no other change happening in the news landscape, them fuck them and they deserve it.
you can’t hold them responsible, because they’re in no way fully aware of what a nightmare Trump is going to be
if people choose to ignore what's right in front of their face, that's a choice they made, and are 100% responsible for. i hold them entirely responsible for being so willfully ignorant and motivated by pure hate. i wouldn't give a shit if their kindergarten-tier irresponsibility didn't affect everyone and not just them
I can't count how many times I saw posts on my Facebook feed that said things like "If you or a loved one relies on Social Security be careful who you vote for". Knowing the people who posted I know they are Trump supporters. I guarantee that when benefits get cut they'll find some way to blame it on Biden/Harris/Pelosi, etc. They either don't see it or refuse to see it. Likewise the number of people in my life who expect an economic miracle by the end of February is unbelievable.
I think it's best to only assign responsibility where it's due. People can't just flip a switch and have the education system and their peers no longer be a part of the problem. We're not going to address systemic issues by only acknowledging individual's responsibility, especially when they're part of a system that promotes ignorance.
That said, individuals still do have agency, so they're certainly not blameless either. But to hold them fully responsible seems counterproductive.
Leopards will become morbidly obese in 6-12 months. Being stupid is expensive.
Fuckem.
All well and good to admire the leopard feast, but I'm worried about the fact that once these people are down and out, society is going to have to collectively carry them one way or another.
It's concerning that many people near the edge will fall off it, regardless of their voting position.
It's obviously concerning that since republican policy will be enacted, more will solely be covered via emergency services rather than collective safety nets, which is an overall cost increase to society.
At this point, I'm convinced it's just a matter of regulating food
Every major revolution in history was more or less sparked and accelerated because people were starving. And when you have the choice of starving to death or doing something, anything, then most people will opt for action rather than dying.
So as long as you keep people fed .... you can abuse them, manipulate them, treat them with no respect and take away everything from them and the majority of them won't do a thing ... take away their food however, and they'll lash out like a wild animal.
This also doesn't mean that you keep people well fed ... it just means keeping enough food in their grasp to keep them from revolting.
If they fail to provide food, I think there's a chance a significant enough chunk of people would learn that the right will not help them no matter what. Perhaps that would be enough to crack the fucking propaganda.
Nah they'll keep them fed enough. If they're really smart they'll increase SNAP/WIC spending. It would be a paltry amount compared to what we'll lose from the rich tax breaks and the deportation fiasco.
Although on the other hand that could lose them votes among the working poor who don't have to worry about starving but do, in their heart of hearts, want the bad people to starve.
I think the only way for people to see differently is if the threatened tariffs are put in place and we see the worst inflation in the country's history over the next two years. Then maybe we can get some actual progressives in Congress (unfortunately under the Democrat umbrella) to stem the tide of insanity.
I wish more people realize this.
To the downvotes:
I completely acknowledge that right wing policy is the problem here, and these people brought it about. If anyone deserves consequences, it should be those that actively brought them about.
I am not sympathetic for leopard chew toys, I'm sympathetic for society which has no option but to accommodate them.
America's version of Brexit is just starting. Wait to see what happens in 3 years' time!
When our economy collapses due to the Musk/Trump "management" of it, then Musk/Trump/etc will need to start a hot war to put citizens to work and excuse vast new amounts of spending (financed with borrowing), mostly on the MIC. Just like Hitler did in the late 30s. Who the victim will be, I've no idea. The stupid little post-9/11 middle-eastern wars made MIC types richer but I don't think they greatly affected the US economy otherwise. No, I think we'll need a big war, against a fairly powerful opponent, to justify all of the "sacrifice" the domestic Poors are going to be asked to engage in. The opponent should be, ideally, a prime target for racial and cultural bigotry - a people that the Poors already think is gross. That'll boost the enlistment rates among their young, who'll be all too happy to sign up to murder whoever MAGA says is foul and hateable and responsible for the shit sandwiches that they've found on their plates. But will Musk/Trump try to take on a Russia or China or NK, opponents that might let fly with nukes? Wall St. won't be keen on that I think, and the billionaires own MAGA now, but still there'll be all those starving, diseased poors ... how will we protect billionaire wealth while maximally leveraging the poors' racism/bigotry and their desire to feel strong and important, to have a stage and to have at least a micro-MAGA-sized personal claim to glory?
We're going to invade Latin America. Not a little bit, a LOT of it. It'll be Socialists we invade.
I hope you're wrong but I'm very afraid you could be right.
We lack the will and production to war this time round...the US is proper fucked