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[–] [email protected] 176 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (34 children)

Bring back the headphone jack. Dumping the 3.5mm jack is what brought this on.

It is simple as that. I do not want to worry about the headphones being charged and losing another charging case and making more room for another thing to charge where i charge everything else.

I do not want that at all.

It was the dumbest thing to make me need batteries for headphones. And I don't do any of this stuff that is in the article. But BRING BACK THE JACK.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

I am still salty about this. I was generally neutral about Apple until the headphone thing, and now I just loathe the iPhone for forcing the bullshit of Bluetooth headphones in the world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People have been loud and obnoxious since long before Audio jacks were a thing, and they’re going to continue being loud and obnoxious long after your grandkids ask “what’s an audio jack?”

Your glasses are nostalgia-tinted. The jack or its absence didn’t prevent or cause this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah I mean boom boxes existed in the 1980s.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How do people not realize this?

Take your phone off speaker phone. It isn't a difficult concept. Entitled assholes. Keep your voice down so you don't irritate the hell out of others. I don't want to hear about your intestines. (BTW not aiming this at the op just at those that can't figure this out.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's Apple's fault.

They took away easy to use 3.5mm headphones.

Bluetooth headphones are a lot more complicated to use. And 3hr battery life earbuds won't help u on a 12 hr flight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

A cheap adapter and you can use regular headphones again

[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Calling out rude people needs to be normalized. Stop being polite to those who aren't.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Have fun with that...

I have called out rude people both politely and bluntly. Always is a conflict. So, just prepared to get into it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Lots of people are intentionally rude, hoping someone says something because they're addicted to rage and want to be "attacked" for something they feel is acceptable.

They'll immediately escalate, and especially in America you have no idea who has a gun. Making a reasonable request can be met with screaming and if you respond in kind then they feel "threatened".

Doesn't really matter what happens at trial, a crazy person that was looking for conflict just pulled their gun. The next 5 minutes matter more than the next five decades.

This means their current behavior becomes normalized, so now everyone is acting like it, people respond to anything with aggression because acting mentally unstable works. It makes the other person go away until you do it to someone even more unhinged.

A polite request to someone like that is a sign of weakness and guarantees an escalation, so even reasonable people stop being polite and start with direction.

The craziest are directing society.

It's not new and it's not the first time, but it rarely works out well for society.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I don't disagree with anything you said, but I also won't live in fear of the crazies with guns (police excluded because holy fuck they will murder you and your family, including your dog, without remorse).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I do by joining into the conversation. People get offended but shut up, walk away, or call the person back later. In an airport or worse yet, an airplane I don't worry about the conflict. On a subway, different story.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have, too, depending on the size of the person rude.

It's weird... almost like rude people don't like to be called rude and are happy to be rude in response to being called rude.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Take your phone off speaker phone.

Kids and idiots base their phone usage off vapid camera-ready idiots on reality TV whose entire usage is to play for an audience. They don't understand that holding their phone like a slice of pizza

  • is against the design
  • makes it harder to hear
  • ruins the noise cancellation
  • looks absolutely ridiculous
  • may be delicious. Try it!

And so it's "monkey see, monkey do."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I'm Norwegian, and travelled to the US in 2004. I remember people on the bus using their phones like this. On public transport. Never saw that in Norway back then.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had a flight back home from Vegas not too long ago and there was a loud woman who could not shut up near me. Even with my earbuds in I could still hear her going on about nonsense. And when we were trying to deplane there was a couple near me as well who were very vocal about how frustrated they were that it was taking so long for people to get off, because they just had to go smoke a cigarette 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago

Obvioisly if someone's on speaker phone it's because they want you to join in the conversation. It's your duty to gather round and give your loud & uninformed opinions

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (6 children)

~~America~~ Ignorant, selfish pricks, stopped using headphones.

Let's be real. You have to be pretty self absorbed to not realize how ignorant it is to walk around playing your music out loud or having a conversation on speakerphone instead of putting the damn phone to your ear.

And its not just flights. Its busses, restaurants, waiting rooms, forest trails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I blame apple. It's a direct result of them fucking with 3.5mm jack.

It used to be simple - plug in wired headphones.
Now I have to have Bluetooth headphones with shitty battery life and skills to connect them.

Guess what - my mom was able to use wired, she cannot handle wireless it's too complicated for her.

Thank you apple assholes. All because u wanted to sell another product - people can't use headphones anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

My mother does the speakerphone thing but she's also half deaf from a lifetime of loud blue collar work. It's never as clear cut as you think

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some office environments too.

Last place I was at, I worked nights pretty much solo. If my wireless earbuds died, sure, I'd play it out loud. I was the only one in the building. About an hour before anyone else started getting in, if my ear buds still hadn't charged enough I turned it off.

Partially to be respectful, and partially because some people get offended by metal even if they can't understand the lyrics. And I mean, yeah, some bands can have unprofessional lyrics. I get it having been in the working world so long.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh there's an easy solution. Talk loudly right next to someone carrying on a conversation out loud on the phone.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago

If it's on speaker they want you to join the conversation, so don't feel shy about joining and taking the conversation where you want it to go.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

New iphones come with a USB-C cable.

That’s it.

They formerly came with cable, charger, and wired ear buds appropriate to the phone.

Airlines distribute 3.5mm jack ear buds, if any at all.

It’s already a potential failure point expecting people to remember to carry an accessory allowing them to listen privately even if one is provided with the device on an incredibly common connection type.

But now they’re not included, you have to buy specialty USB-C ear buds or expensive airpods. More points of failure.

Haven’t even touched on the asshole factor of individuals just not giving an F and listening to their devices on speaker without regard to their fellow humans.

Every single flight I’ve been on there has been at least one individual VoIP calling, video watching, or gaming on their cell phone speaker that needed to be told to stop by the cabin crew.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I can't stand going to a restaurant and having to hear a child's tablet playing a video.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

It's a thing that inconsiderate people and just plain bad parents do

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

It only takes one asshole in a crowded subway car to ruin it for everyone. I like to read on the subway, but they're basically telling me that if I want to drown out their tiktok videos, I need to bring something with me with my own audio to listen to over headphones, just to not hear them.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make America feel shame again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I blame apple for fucking with 3.5mm jack

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

People in this country are shit pigs and they resent anyone that tells them that obvious truth.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why does that article feel so disjointed? Tgis paragraph was especially random:

“I engaged once with a guy who had a different opinion. He was like, ‘I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s bothersome.’”

No explanation or attribution for the quote. Just sandwiched in there

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It's the text equivalent of a sixth finger.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I wonder if drug dealers also do this.

(Henry's phone rings with a machine gun ringtone. He answers it on speakerphone without a second thought.)

  • Yo, Peter! What's up, man?
  • Henry, we need to talk about the new shipment of snow.
  • Yeah, what about it?
  • Tom's got a fresh batch. Just crossed the border this morning. But we need to be careful, last time it was cut with too much crap.
  • Yeah, Tom is such a greedy bastard. What do you say we skip the payment part, and just paint the walls with his brains?
  • I thought you would never ask. I'll bring the shotgun. See you at the train station at 6.
  • Cool see ya there. Bye.
  • Bye.

(Henry looks at the bewildered people around him.)

  • What are you all looking at?
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You jest, but I've spent a year+ homeless, often around fentanyl/meth addicts/dealers.

I've heard conversations very similar to this, albeit with more slang, many times, either just on speaker phone, or with the volume turned up so loud without the speakerphone on that you can hear the whole convo anyway...

I've heard this many times, on buses packed with people, at encampments, in shelters, at bus stops on the street, etc.

They don't look around bewildered and surprised afterward. They act jubilant, cocksure.

They don't give a fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

My steam deck has a headphone jack.

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