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[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

These guys mastered pivoting. Next time I'm moving my sofa, I know who I'm gonna call.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

With humans, you pay them to move your sofa with beer. With ants, they're happy picking up crumbs from the carpet.

The hard part is convincing them to leave afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How do you coerce ants to solve puzzles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Make it smell like food

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Makes we wonder what the optimal group size is for human intelligence. Induvidually we can be consistently pretty smart, and in very large groups we're brazenly idiotic even when the group is composed entierly of induvidually smart people. Yet most important research these days requires a team, so there must be some (likely fairly small) optimal group size to optimize useful intelligence/person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

It is likely a number no greater than 150.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I’d like to see a larger group of people doing this with extremely limited communication. Like if you had 100-200 people only allowed to push the shape with their mouse cursor in a web app. I have a feeling we’d end up with similar results to the ant time-lapse.

Basically like the collaborative canvas projects around April fools.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Amazing. "Something" is definitely aware of rotation, "fits"/shapes and taking a step back from a local minimum to move forward. Seeing them all done together is even more impressive. What else are "they" aware of and...how many do you need to have this team spatial awareness? 100?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Not gonna lie, they figured it out faster than me. Never going to look at ants the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Isn’t this just brute force? Liek trying random directions until one works?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve always known ants were intelligent, but this is blowing my mind.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 23 hours ago

In my head, I was just thinking “a whole bunch of different ants brute-forcing it until it works isn’t intelligence.” Then I saw the video where they’re actively rotating it after it isn’t going in and realized, holy shit, I’d still be trying to push it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 23 hours ago

I’d post this to mildly interesting but this is way more than mildly interesting

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What was the impetus that drove the ants to move it from one side to the other?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

From the article:

People attempted to solve the puzzle because they were instructed to, while ants were motivated to carry the load to the third chamber (which was open toward the nest) since the load was made to resemble food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I missed the link to the article too... what I get for navigation lemmy under the influence of Christmas cheer. Thank you for the assist, neighbor.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Either it’s full of food or the entire nest is just that blank acrylic and they want to add it to their nest. Probably food though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

You know... I never thought about them having a nest off screen... I just assumed they were in a box.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

I didn’t know it but we did

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Love the videos of the humans solving the puzzle. Let's see an octopus next!