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hey nerds, I'm getting myself a new personal laptop as a treat, but I very much do not want windows 11 shitting it up. Is there a linux distro with caveman-compatible instructions for installation and use? I want to think about my OS as little as possible while actually using it.

I've got one friend who uses mint, but I've also seen memes dunking on it so who knows. I actually really only know what I've seen from you all shitposting in other communities

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I can’t disagree with mint being a good distribution, because it is.

I personally think for someone just starting out in Linux that an immutable distribution like fedora silverblue (gnome) or kinoite (kde) is the safest route to take. They’re difficult to break. I personally use bazzite on my framework laptop and it’s basically hassle free. Not for everyone, but they work well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I opened this thread to type out this exact comment but somehow you typed up the exact same thing before me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would beg to differ. Maybe things will be different once things have mature more. At the moment, just quickly trying out a most of them, I'd easily see rough edges within first few minutes. Some would have more subtle issues, but it's still far from foolproof.

Simple config stuff that would usually take simple file editting on /etc comes to mind.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora or one of the offshoots like Mint or Pop.

As long as you don't go too far into the weeds with Arch, Silverblue or NixOS, You're probably going to have a pretty decent experience, as long as you don't dig too far under the hood too early most things that you're going to want to try are just going to work out of the gate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Don't get mint if you'll get a remotely capable laptop or plan to game on it. Its so called 'modern' desktop environment (wich still defaults to the old X window system) feels awful to use imo and while the 'retro' ones are better there's no point in using them on a new laptop. Choose a distro that ships with KDE, GNOME, or a wlroots based desktop environment.

I've also had driver issues with it that didn't happen with Ubuntu or arch.

Pretty much every distro has a caveman compatible installer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I usually recommend Zorin OS to noobs, but personally I prefer arch based

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've never noticed any hate for Mint, it seems to be a pretty good option. It'll easily run on anything that was able to run Windows 10 (probably 8 too) and the default desktop environment Cinnamon is easy to navigate if you're coming from Windows. Even if you have some obscure piece of hardware with Mint being based on Ubuntu there's probably a tutorial you can follow to get it working.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Install a few and see which one you like the most. You can install several distros at the same time and they'll all appear in the boot menu. When I was deciding which distro to use on my laptop, I was dual booting Debian and Fedora, with one /home partition shared between both of them.

Mint and Fedora are good choices for a beginner.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Mint was my beginner distro and is what I recommend. In my experience I was able to find a solution for most of my beginner problems by searching for a solution for mint.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

to those suggesting mint, any particular reasons to choose between Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce versions?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I personally use Cinnamon, which has a similar feeling to Win10. Very satisfied with it on my desktop. From what I've heard XFCE also feels similar to Windows, but I simply have just used Cinnamon ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Cinnamon or Xfce are more similar to Windows' user interface. Between those two, Xfce is more lightweight than Cinnamon. MATE is more for people who liked GNOME 2 and want that interface over what the current GNOME is.

Cinnamon would probably be the most friendly as a new user, but I personally haven't used it in years and I'm not familiar with its current state.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Debian all day...

All these shiny new distros promising to make things easier and better... But nothing is easier and better than 30 years of rock solid stability and support.

Depending on how new the laptop is, it might not work on debian stable. Check your compatibility

From personal experience with a new laptop, the intel meteor lake platform didnt work well with debian stable

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago

Absolutely Debian stable, the first thing i wanted in Linux was stability, coming from windows you want something that "just works" and I think Debian stable + Gnome is the perfect choice for this!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Any Debian/Ubuntu or fedora based distro will do you fine. I personally ran PopOS when I built my computer earlier this year and didn't have any issues with it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Linux mint (Cinnamon is my fav). You can never go wrong.

Maybe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mint, Fedora

Run KDE if you consistently game, otherwise Gnome is good since you can leave every setting after setup with it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What advantage does KDE have over Mint for gaming?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Oh, it's not kde, it's gnome

Gnome compositor can have issues with some games, most notable for me was TF2 and TF2 Classic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Ubuntu. There are mixes of it but out of the box Ubuntu is about as straightforward a dist to install as possible and it is well supported.

That said "new laptop" and Linux are not always a match made in heaven. You might try it from a boot stick and confirm that things like the GPU, touch screen, touchpad, fingerprint reader, USB C / Lightning all work properly.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I found the main issue with many non-rolling release distributions are the upgrade instructions from one stable release to the next, and not the difficulty of installing them.

I'm myself a Archlinux guy, but that does sometimes require some carefulness and regularly (at least weekly) applying updates and does not have stable automatic updates, so I started installing Fedora atomic desktop distributions (Fedora Silverblue/Kinolite/etc.) for people that just want to use their device for basic stuff.

The reason for that is long term maintainability without an expert at hand.

I had so many bad experiences updating distributions from one stable version to the next, be it Debian and Ubuntu-based, or Fedora-based distributions.

And with those atomic desktop distributions the amount of moving parts is much lower, so hopefully upgrading them to newer releases is much more stable.

So I would suggest giving Fedora Silverblue (Gnome desktop), Kinolite (KDE) or Budgie Edition a try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Debian is one of my favorites and one of the easiest to use if you are new. i haven't tried mint but they are very similar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

FedoraKDE, or Mint.

Either way you'll probably be able to search and find answers to your problems (and answers for ubuntu may work), and with mint you know your friend can possibly help if need be, and they work well.

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