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Considering to buy one for a family member.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I switched to vape, not necessarily to drop nicotine, but so i could smoke in company vehicles. I haven't stopped vaping for a few years now.

I'm in no way saying the habit is healthy or nice, but there's still a net positive to switching even if you don't end up stopping.

It's cheaper overall. A little over a pack a day is basically $10/day. I probably spend $60 on juice and $10 for coils in a month, and that's a high estimate. One coil can last a few months sometimes, other times they're duds. The initial cost is what can look expensive. $100 for a good rig, but it can last years if you get the right one. (I save money by using a rig that takes 18650 batteries and scavenge them from dead electronics - they're everywhere, power tool batteries, hoverboards, etc. Otherwise it's an extra $10 every 6 months)

It also doesn't dry me out like cigarettes. Cigarettes used to cause my sinuses to bleed in the morning and just clog my sinuses through the day. Vape keeps me a little more hydrated it feels like, like even the cough is more fluid and comes right up. No more dry coughing at all.

Don't even get me started with the smell.

It's worth mentioning too, there's a difference between the nic salts and the juice. The salts are where you can experience OD and even seizures.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Took me years, but yes.

This was back in the day when you could easily source stuff to mix your own juice though. I was vaping 3ml and I stepped down 0.5ml every month until I was vaping just flavor. At that point I'd carry my vape around but use it WAY less. Eventually I'd get sick of bringing it with me and just stopped using it.

Then I'd cave again, and restart the process.

Took me a few years, but my vapes are gone and I only smoke when I'm shithoused and around a bunch of smokers, which is a maybe once every couple years event now?

I'm not sure how it would work these days. Everything is packaged, can you even mix your own nic content? Fucking big tobacco fucked up the market.

Even just switching to vaping full time is better than smoking, so get your family member one and hope for the best.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago

The TL;DR on this one is "if someone wants to quit being addicted to nicotine a vape is a decent way to stop." If they don't want to, they'll just switch to the vape instead of smoking.

So they have to want to quit in order to get any benefit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I have quit smoking after switching to vaping. To be more specific I'm a cannabis ex-smoker who switched to dry herb vaping where you heat raw flower or concentrates up until the cannabinoid oils vaporize but not so hot that things combust into flame. Before I switched I was having issues with coughing up black tar mucus flem and some wheeze in the lungs. No more of those problems, and I can actually taste the terps and subtle flavors now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

My spouse and I both did.

I was a pack per day smoker for 15-20 years. Switched to vaping as it was becoming so popular. Stepped down the nicotine over the course of a few years until I finally just got tired of going and buying 1mg juice and stopped. Haven't had a vape in about 2 years and a cigarette in about about 5.

I still get a craving now and then but it passes. Cigarettes usually just smell like a disgusting ashtray and I'm glad I don't smoke anymore.

edit: we both actively wanted to quit and I'm so happy it worked for us

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

My friend started smoking after quiting because he started vaping... So there's always that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago

20 years smoking 10 to 15 cigarettes a day, switched to vaping for 4 years, then quit completely as I was fed up with the logistics of vaping.

My last cigarette was 9 years ago and I don't miss it at all. I consider vaping was the biggest reason I quit, seconded with the avoidance of social situations where smoking is common.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yes! I smoked for over 20 years. I didn't think I'd ever be able to quit. I started vaping with the goal of quitting, and eventually quit! Then I quit vaping too, about six months later. It's an excellent cessation method, with almost a 70% success rate. The next closest cessation method has a success rate of 3% and is owned by the tobacco companies.

Get a device that hits like a cigarette. This means mouth to lung, and not a big DTL cloud machine. It also ideally means a round mouthpiece. Make sure it's good enough to give throat hit, but not so good that it produces massive clouds. Ideally you want a device that is not sub-ohm. Start with 18mg tobacco flavored juice. Then just vape. Sometimes you'll smoke cigarettes, and sometimes you'll vape. Don't beat yourself up when you smoke, but try to vape more than you smoke. Before you know it, you'll be reaching for the vape more than the cigarettes, until you don't reach for cigarettes at all. Then you're free!

Once you're free, wait a month and then cut the juice down to 12mg, then 6, then 3, then a mix of 0 and 3, then 0! After a couple weeks of 0 you'll just naturally quit, no discipline required.

Share this information with the person you know, and tell them that if I could do it, anyone can do it!

Edit: for such a device I recommend the Geekvape B coil series, in higher ohm ranges.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes....

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I quit smoking using a vape and then quit vaping.

I found that it was easier to quit smoking using a vape because I kept the same motion. I needed a powerful one to feel a similar hit.

And I found it easier to stop vaping than to stop smoking because I could mix liquids to have any desired nicotine content, allowing me to reduce it very gradually. A lot of people simply replace smoking with vaping but that's still an improvement.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Yes, I know someone who did, but they ODed on the nicotine cartridges via vaping and not reading the dosages carefully. They quit entirely after that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.

I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Yup.

An older friend who smoke and drank a ton switched to vapes, and methodically lowered the nicotine content every two-there weeks for months, then stopper nicotine and vaped the flavours but as there was no more nicotine, the habit wasn't addicting and he just forgot about it more or less.

Now he's been alone free for years, and reduced his drinking as well. Looks fucking healthy now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did, not sure it made it easier though. It took away two negatives for smoking for me, it didn't smell bad to others and I could smoke inside.

If anything it made it harder to quit, but they're supposedly much better for you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Regardless of the health benefits for you personally, they're much better and less unpleasant for those around you.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

I think you have to want to quit smoking for it to work like that. I've found that because vaping is more accessible than smoking, someone's vaping consumption can be far higher than what they were smoking. It can be quite easy to sort of absent mindedly vape in a way that's harder to do when smoking.

But I do know people who have used vaping in this way. Someone I knew had tried to quit smoking before but they couldn't go from one cigarette per day (and they needed to quit fully, or their smoking would inevitably increase during times of stress). When smoking, I guess you could roll a smaller cigarette, but this friend tried that and it didn't work. Vaping allowed them to finally kick the habit for good because their vape allowed them to taper down the nicotine content per puff of the vape

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did, but I would mix my own fluid; every couple of batches I would half the nicotine content. Eventually it was near-negligible, and perhaps two weeks after that I was doneski

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

Yes, it just took me about 5 years of on and off vaping 😅. Vaping is a much better addiction to have than smoking though.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. Switched to vaping and was vaping for multiple years before quitting completely. Biggest thing was the "safety" of always being able to have my fix without an actual smoke. The "never again" mentality made it so hard to ditch the cancer stick but the vape was always like "it's ok, you can just have a little puff whenever you feel like it". Slowly down the nicotine content. Puff less. Even less. At some point I just forgot. Still have the vape. Still have the liquid, albeit it's dark red now and looks radioactive so utterly unusable. But point is that the vape eventually faded into irrelevance in a way that cigarettes never could.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Check out SmokeFree.gov! It has great free resources that are science based. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do for their health.

The most effective methods to quit smoking include varenicline (aka Chantix), FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, inhaler, etc), and behavioral therapy. Combining all of these therapies in a clinical trials results in the most people quitting.

No vape is FDA-approved as a cessation therapy, because no company has applied. There have been some small academic run trials, which tend to show a decrease in smoking, but continued nicotine addiction. Probably because vapes have much higher nicotine content than FDA-approved therapies. While vapes expose people to a lot less carcinogens than smoke, there are some carcinogens and nicotine itself is harmful to vascular and mental health. So if the evidence-based methods don't work, completely switching to vaping would be less harmful.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Yup.

I smoked a pack a day for roughly 30 years. My night time breathing was getting ugly and my wife would sometimes get woken up by the sound of my wheezing.

Every method of quitting failed me except vaping. I started as most do with a high nicotine vape juice that tasted like tobacco, but after about a month I swapped and started going lower and lower nicotine and change the flavor from tobacco to a custardy type.

2 months of that got me off the cigs. Two more months got me down to zero nicotine. Two or three more months after that I was done.

I have been off cigs for 7 years.

My breathing no longer feels wet or difficult at night. And My yearly health tests all come back the same as a non-smoker.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes.

Wife and I switched to vaping, then that eventually dropped off to nothing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I quit not only because of vaping and tobacco-less nicotine pouches, but because I wanted it. If you are buying it for a family member, you can't make them quit... Hopefully they are wanting to, because you can't make that decision for them. Just like any other addict.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Depends on what part of it you're addicted to.

I just want nicotine. I don't care out of what.

Some people want the feel, sensation and flavor of a cigarette.

I just want my fix so I can carry on with my day.

That's kinda the line between moving to a vape or not.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Don't think I've seen one of my friends actually quit yet, but vaping has replaced cigarettes for 90% of the usage.

So it really depends if you think vaping is less harmful than smoking.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. It is a shame that vapes are disregarded as therapeutics. They are fantastic in that regard.
Not to say that the fruit flavoured garbage aimed at children is okay; it is not and should be dealt with. However, we should simultaneously not let the tobacco industry deter the medically valid use of vapes for use as an aid with smoking cessation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a fully grown adult who very much enjoys fruit flavours in my vape. Please don't legislate me based on the kids. Make better laws to protect and allow adults to enjoy things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Well at least when they fully ban flavors for us adults, we can drink away our problems with the cotton candy and birthday cake vodka that's stocked in every liquor store across the country.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

My son worked for vape wild. His favorite part was talking to people about how to use vapes and custom fluids to quit smoking. Then they had a huge investment from one of the cigarette companies and it all went downhill.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

11 years without a cigarette, still vape though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

My mom did. She smoked cigarettes since the 80s and quit in 2012 with vape. She never smoked a single cigarette after that

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I did. Been a decade since I had a cigarette.

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