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EA Responds to Concerns About Men and Women Playing Together in FC 24 Ultimate Team Mode (gamerant.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Tldr: The mode is meant to be a fantasy and that players should turn to EA Sports FC 24’s Kick Off mode for a more realistic experience.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ.. the incel/neckbeards have no shame. It's a fucking game you twats.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

You started out asking whether it's a game or simulation, then ended up talking about card pulls. Clearly it's a game then right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's a game. In the UT mode you can use players in your team that have long been retired or dead. You have cards that make up crazy what ifs scenarios, like what if Ronaldo was a center back or Messi a right back (don't know if those cards actually exist but you get the point). You can make crazy teams that are completely unrealistic. Now they are expanding that with women.

I don't see the issue personally. I just played it for fun and to make crazy teams. My front line right now is Leao, Raúl and Mahrez. Wouldn't mind changing Mahrez for Beath Mead just for fun. 🙂

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The publisher responded to arguments that it was unrealistic by explaining that Ultimate Team mode is meant to be a fantasy and that players should turn to EA Sports FC 24’s Kick Off mode for a more realistic experience.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In that same vein, I want to know why I can't have male v female fights in the WWE games. My sister only makes female characters, and I usually make guys. We can't pit our characters together and it's dumb.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i believe it's part of their contract with mattel toys to not show intergender violence, but the upcoming AEW game has mixed gender matches!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aew fight forever has already been released. It is not very good though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

ah i had no clue, 60-70% reviews is sadly pretty average for a wrestling game, i hope they patch out the bugs!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EA response: “Toughen the fuck up you whiny little pricks”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The correct response.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an alternate universe where this article was never written because people there didn't lose their minds over whether their video game pixels had a penis or vulva concealed by their clothes.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does. Play the mode where it does. It also has this mode where all players can be on the same team. How can more options be bad? Just opt to play how it is in the real world if that's what you want.

I hate that we humans are so dumb most of the time. Just let people have choices. Why are female and male characters able to raid together in wow? Why does a female bloodelf maintank have as much HP as a male tauren? Never seen that discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretend that women don’t exist and that you’re seeing long-haired men, if a fake character’s sex is that important to you.

But I’m pretty sure this is one of those cases where the simulation is not the real reason at all. It’s just an ingrained prejudice against women. No one is complaining that dead characters being in there ruins the simulation.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In a separate place, where you could pretend that women doesn't exist. Now that people have to see them, fragile men start crying about realism or whatever excuse they can think of to force EA to hide women again. And that when, again, nobody cared about realism when you could have dead players in your team.

Realism is just the fake rationalization because it would be very bad to say "it's because I hate women". Some of the snowflakes crying about that haven't even realized yet that they hate women.

But it's not different (at all) from what's happening this week, where youtube channels that are showing the women's soccer games are receiving lots of misoginistic comments.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, I wasn't aware that the addition of the Ultimate Team mode removed the ability to play in a way more closely resembling the real-world sport though. Care to point out where they've stated that those other modes will no longer be available?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In fact, the article very much states as much explicitly:

The publisher responded to arguments that it was unrealistic by explaining that Ultimate Team mode is meant to be a fantasy and that players should turn to EA Sports FC 24’s Kick Off mode for a more realistic experience.

Be it Reddit or be it the Fediverse, people are too busy with their opinion on the title to read the article behind it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well, it does. In the non-fantasy mode.

The publisher responded to arguments that it was unrealistic by explaining that Ultimate Team mode is meant to be a fantasy and that players should turn to EA Sports FC 24’s Kick Off mode for a more realistic experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I get the complaints, it's at best lip service to women's sports. It's trivial to remove women if it becomes a problem. This was a lazy way to add women, they could have added a second mandatory team, but that would require work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hard to imagine someone having such a bleak, pathetic life that they can muster any kind of a shit about a game mode where men, and women play together.

Yet, here we are. Now that EA has put their head over the parapet with this game, maybe we can have a fantasy league in the next UFC, and all these incels will have a virtual outlet for their sad viewpoints?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone who actually plays this mode regularly, I don't know how to feel about this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you feel in any way about that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Now that I think about it, I think I lean towards be in favor of it