Is anyone surprised? I don't understand why these law firms don't require payment up front for "defendants" like this. I wouldn't represent them for all the money in the world but if I was going to I wouldn't do it on good faith that they'll pay me when the bill becomes due. The minute the owe me a cent, all work stops until payment is received.
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At the very least after the first few ten thousand dollars of unpaid bills I would stop working. But there may be other considerations.
It’s pretty common for corporate stuff (legal or otherwise) to start with no payment changing hands, just a contract. Then an invoice lands either monthly or on completion afterwards.
That makes it easier for the work to actually start (otherwise you need to engage the finance dept up front and they’re often slow), and once the contract is signed and the work started that’s the sales process complete.
It's common, but it's also common to require payment up front or refuse service to businesses with bad credit and/or financial reputation.
Yes but the retainer is not millions of dollars. I engage a number of firms at any one time and the largest retainer I've ever had was $10k.
It's common, but probably shouldn't be for these right wing grifters. Or just grifters in general. If you know someone is trying to start some idealogical bullshit in order to satisfy a personal grievance, you can just kind of assume that you're not getting paid.
I get that for normal clients but letting it get to millions is a bit silly unless you have a guarantee of payment and I'm not one bit surprised this waste of oxygen isn't paying up/claiming he can't. I would insist on extra upfront on top but there's probably a reason I'm not a successful and rich lawyer
Maybe that's the point.
Ive needed lawyers for family shit and it was always paid up front. Idk how these guys are getting a fresh dollar worth of work without compensation.
Same way banks work, when you owe them 30,000 and can't pay, you're fucked. When you owe them 100 million they're fucked.
The only time I didn't pay a lawyer up front was to represent me on contingency and they'd take a percentage of the settlement. No fucking way a lawyer would just represent me without a retainer in any other kind of trial (unless they were pro bono).
Agreed, but it's hard to feel bad for people with no morals. ' I will absolutely represent this delusional shitbag, if the money is right' should not be a thing.
Hopefully it sinks all of them. It won't of course, the lawyers will be fine, their interns might be laid off, MyDildo has already been abandoned by his hero. Nothing changes.
I understand the moral outrage, but remember that our laws guarantee everyone the right to effective legal counsel—even shitty, guilty people. For this reason, I think one has to give some pause before judging lawyers who defend obviously shitty/guilty clients. I saw an expose once on a hated defense lawyer who almost always took cases wherein the defendant was obviously guilty and had virtually no shot at trial due to overwhelming evidence. He maintained he took the clients in question specifically because he felt everyone deserved the right to a decent lawyer and this class of people are often shunned by attorneys who prioritize their win/lose ratio.
An attorney is only guaranteed on criminal cases where you don't have the funds to pay for one.
For civil cases, you have to represent yourself or hire an attorney.
Hopefully it will put scumbag lawyers like this out of business.
I couldn't do it but I understand that to have a balanced law system there needs to be lawyers to defend even the guilty. Some are ethically challenged and stoop to disgusting tactics but not all who defend the obviously guilty play dirty. Frustrating when bad people evade justice on a technicality but sometimes that's the fault of the prosecution for making a mistake, which of course happen as matter of course though that doesn't make it any more palatable.
For some of these firms it's free press, even if their client is a deadbeat or just plain old ridiculous.
For some of these firms it's free press, even if their client is a deadbeat or just plain old ridiculous.
How the fuck do you end up owing millions of dollars to lawyers after 2-3 years? And at some point he was paying them so I don't even want to know what the total has been
I don't remember those exact amount but I'm pretty sure Dominion is suing him for a whole lot more than that
He’s a grift cow. He’s been repeatedly hit up by grifters to fund stupid stuff.
They're likely accruing debt on a bonded injunction or something similar though a couple million on a case this large and public over years isn't uncommon.
You can't convince me this fucker isn't back on the crack.
This election stuff is his current crack.
He took a hotshot of Trump.
Yep. Some people just have an addictive personality and need to be addicted to something. Eminem talked about it when he first got clean. He was saying how he replaced his addiction for drugs with running. Said he would run for several miles every single day.
Also, his pillows suck. I just felt the need to add that.
His lumpy pillows.
That makes you an asshole.
I like that someone on the IntarWebz called him "Deposition Karen".
That's what I hate about how everyone calls him "the MyPillow Guy" it's free advertising even if no one likes him.
I like "Mike Pillow", personally.
I was gifted one of his pet blankets for Christmas. Those suck too. My dog gets static electric zaps every morning.
I really hope all of these high profile right wing types follow Trump's lead. All of them having crappy lawyers would be fitting.
They're not used to criminal lawyers. They're used to criminal lawyers. They have no concept of how a legitimate justice system is supposed to work.
As soon as they can't intimidate or "whack" a judge, juror, or opponent they go deer in headlights. You can't blame them really. Their money has shielded them through decades without consequence.
These people never had whack a judge power, at best they have here's a hundred thousand you didn't see anything money. That's a big difference and one arguably isn't power just influence that can be switched by offering them slightly more.
I learned it from yoooouuu daddy Trump!!!!
"That goddamn credit? Dead it. You think a crackhead paying you back? Shit, forget it!"
- Biggie Smalls (Ten Crack Commandments)
Lie down with ~~dogs ~~ pillow guy and you can expect to get fleas.
My dog is infinitely cleaner than any of these assholes
Womps and Preyers 🙏
Crack ain't got shit on narcissism.
Looks like someone replaced their crack addiction with a right-wing theocracy addiction.
Looks like Mike Pillow needs another cyber symposium to sell tickets!
And yet, he still holds on to his claims. He needs some real deprograming.
All of these monsters are continuously reported to "owe millions" to their lawyers, and are being sued by them, and yet, they continue to be represented every time they go to court. One of these things simply isn't true.
You severely underestimate the amount of sycophants out there who will gladly do it because 'they won't fuck me over, I'm one of the good ones' until they end up just like the rest.
Just look at ol' dipshits Donnie and the number of businesses that continue to work with him knowing he has decades of history not paying people.
Yes, and all the dumbasses that rotated through his maladministration, only to fall out of favor or whatever and get dragged by donnie, too.
What is the total fees?