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People in 2024 aren't just swiping right and left on online dating apps — some are crafting their perfect AI match and entering relationships with chatbots.

Eric Schmidt, Google's former CEO, recently shared his concerns about young men creating AI romantic partners and said he believes that AI dating will actually increase loneliness.

"This is a good example of an unexpected problem of existing technology," Schmidt said in a conversation about AI dangers and regulation on "The Prof G Show" with Scott Galloway released Sunday.

Schmidt said an emotionally and physically "perfect" AI girlfriendcould create a scenario in which a younger male becomes obsessed and allows the AI to take over their thinking.

"That kind of obsession is possible," Schmidt said in the interview. "Especially for people who are not fully formed."

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I want to see the unfolding of a scorching romance between two partners, each not knowing that the other is an AI.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

New on NBC this spring. Tune in for the drama. AI vs AI Romance Island Server Room.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's is a movie plot for you

Two sentient AI forces into the industry of artificial partners meet and develop human emotions

Fill in the gaps

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

I have been saying for a while, I think hyperealistic vr and believable AI personalities are going to be the 'great filter' that limits advanced civilization.

Given the chance to have your sexual and emotional fantasies fulfilled in a satisfying way, many many people will take it. Especially when 'real life' is getting harder with everything from the cost of living making the dream of 'married with home and children' less obtainable to hyper competitive online dating disenfranchising increasing proportions of both men and women.

Having a believable relationship with AI is far closer than we think. It doesn't have to perfectly replicate real life, it just has to be satisfying enough in a few key ways that people begin to prefer it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Given the chance to have your sexual and emotional fantasies fulfilled in a satisfying way, many many people will take it.

Obviously. But I haven’t yet seen anything from an AI that could fulfill either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on how low your standards are. I mean, there were [a small number of] people who convinced themselves that the 1960s chatbot ELIZA was a person with feelings, and the bots have only become more convincing since then. I can certainly see the modern ones fulfilling the emotional needs of someone who really, really wants to believe they're speaking to a sapient being who cares about them, and as for the other, well, some people have pretty low sex drives or find phone sex fulfilling enough (at least for a time).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You're looking at the AI equivalent of where stop frame animation was in 1930. It's a few years old and rudimentary. Give it 80 years. That's the time frame I was talking about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

50 years ago people saw the advancement of cars and assumed we’d have flying cars by now. Nobody predicted computers would be as ubiquitous as they are. The best method we have of drying clothes is still blowing warm air through them thousands of years later. Advancement isn’t guaranteed.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Full clean up after and sandwich making? Sign me up.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I personally agree that this is a kind of a regulator.

Like what Tao Te Ching says. Humans shouldn't have too much of what they desire. Such a reality in some area fails them as an opportunity to learn. It's also a dead end - you can't have children with a robot. You can't grow children with a robot, or maybe you can, but it will not be sufficiently complex and it will have different criteria of success.

But this doesn't limit advanced civilization.

It's just that in these things we are trying to cheat. Advancement to AGI, if it ever happens, should be done in its own turn. We have means to solve a lot of purely technical problems, but we haven't yet. There's no reason to hurry with AGI.

The reason Europe has conquered the world was that European cultures had this respect to simplicity, born from Christian morality, but also respect to choice and logic. Remove any one of these three, and you lose that power.

Europeans had sometimes less sophisticated technologies in any particular area than, say, China or Safavid Persia or Ottomans or Southeast Asian nations or even at some point some African nations. But what they had was complete and comprehensive system, civilization as a whole. They always had the lower level of the building finished before going to the next one.

This was due to that Christian modesty combined with antique philosophy.

I also think we've diverted from that relatively recently - around the dotcom bubble crash, maybe. I think it had deeper implications than what people think, because the trust into said philosophy started eroding at that very point. Which created imbalance in favor of forces less affected, like Microsoft and others, who have eroded it further, and the "good" forces, like Sun or Compaq or Motorola or what not, have contributed more into it with their attempts to survive after the 90s than they would if they'd die with the crash immediately, because they showed the public something that looked like a loss in honest competition.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Especially when ‘real life’ is getting harder with everything from the cost of living making the dream of ‘married with home and children’ less obtainable to hyper competitive online dating disenfranchising increasing proportions of both men and women

And there's also the climate factor. The world is going to get even more hellish in the next decades, not just hotter, but more extreme weather is near. Thanks, in parts, to the older generations (boomers), it won't be easier for the current generations, and it'll be even harder for the next generations (considering that humanity has not yet become extinct in the next few decades). It's just unfathomable to bring children to this future hellish world.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You know, the way this toxic bro culture has evolved, let them build their own romantic partners if actual human women aren’t good enough for them.

Personally, I love my authentic, human, beautiful complicated and unusual wife. I didn’t get to create her, but I’ve gotten to spend almost 20 years figuring her out and it’s been pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I can’t imagine wanting perfect and take over the weird dweeb I managed to fall in love with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

But that would require personal work and growth on my part! Joke

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Futurama warned us about this!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Came here to say just that. Mr CEO over not thinking this would happen is just detached from the world.

Lonely people aren't lonely by choice a lot of the time, they just can't find a place they fit in. You find out there is a place you can chat with "someone" that understands and that is all it takes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

DON'T DATE ROBOTS!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

You can't just say that and not link it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uE96qUlJ_4

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

"FILL UP PHILIP J FRY!!!!"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not sure one of the most evil people on earth is in a position to be dictating human values to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The real question is are sex dolls good enough? Because you cannot have sex with an AI girlfriend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

Could the oldest profession be one of the first to be replaced by AI?

No.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guys is there a way to use complex filtering on the Boost app. Maybe a regex? I wanna be able to filter all headlines that include the phrase Google CEO unless it also contains the phrase 'head explodes'.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If(match(/.*(Google CEO).*(head explodes).*/gi,title_text)){pass}

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's beyond me that anyone understands this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It just filters for anything "Google CEO" anything "head explodes" anything^1^. However, this alone won't help since you will also need another rule that doesn't let anything pass that contains just "Google CEO" with a lower priority.

^1^ Except newlines

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

I'll take projection for 100, Alex

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When i was younger i totally would've been into an ai girlfriend

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not against using AI to explore sexuality, including practicing with a chat bot, but the technology just isn't there yet. Most sexual talk from a chatbot comes from erotica. There's plenty of written erotica for all types of people, so it can be pretty versatile, but it is generally just going to act as a fantasy machine, which makes for terrible practice. Real people aren't like that.

But as AI and AR/VR become more mature, we're going to get some pretty outrageous fantasy machines that are going to fuck up a lot of young men. I'm not even against full-on ultra-realistic hardcore simulations of sex, I just think we're going to be really unhealthy with it like we usually are with this kind of thing.

Young men can hardly separate fantasy from reality and end up having parasocial relationships with camgirls instead of seeking real world companionship. When they can get a virtual deepfake blowjob from any girl with enough Instagram selfies to simulate, they're going to end up broken in the worst way imaginable, and women will be on the receiving end of that exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wish he would fuck off along with the rest of the CEO class .

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

20 years later, the last fertile guy cums one last time. Elon is there to catch the golden cum. He must save the world by reverse engineering one semen into an egg. If he can find one, he can bring us back! But so far, it has just been blanks after blanks. This could be it! Imagine all the tits and pussy that could be automatically grown! We're gonna be millionaires! Women, the ultimate product!....if they can bring them back from extinction.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't fuck with AI chat bots but I got a he'll of a lot less lonely when I stopped giving a fuck if I had a girlfriend or not. Giving people alternatives to the toxic dating culture of today may not be such a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I fuckin love being alone, living alone, not talking to people. I’m alone a lot, but I’m not lonely. There’s a big difference

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't think this is a problem specific to men or adults primarily but children growing up with them. That is if they'll continue to improve drastically which won't necessarily happen.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Perfect AI boyfriends are the bigger threat to young men

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Does anyone care what this guy says about anything? He is in the news every week with his more or less obnoxious opinions about random stuff. Can we just ignore him?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Eh, young women have been lusting after fictional characters like Mr Darcy, likely for as long as we've had literature.

These fictional characters can talk back, but it's not really anything new.

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