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A man who killed and ate a man has been released back into public life after ten years.

Tyree Smith, from Bridgeport, Connecticut, killed a homeless man and then ate his brain and eyeballs according to officials.

The horrific case made headline news, with Smith found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity after a July 2013 trial.

In lieu of a stint behind bars, Smith was ordered committed to a state psychiatric hospital for 60 years.

But now, ten years after the grim incident, the state Psychiatric Security Review Board said Smith was ready to be transitioned back into the community.

Smith has been released from the facility, Connecticut’s most secure, as of writing.

He will be living in a Waterbury group home, and is not allowed to associate with anyone involved in criminal activity.

The board stated in its report: “Tyree Smith is an individual with a psychiatric illness requiring care, custody and treatment.

“Since his last hearing Tyree Smith has continued to demonstrate clinical stability.

“Mr. Smith is medication compliant, actively engaged in all recommended forms of treatment, and has been symptom-free for many years.”

During the trial, Smith’s cousin Nicole Rabb claimed he arrived at her Connecticut home in December 2011, talking about Greek gods and ruminating about needing to go out and get blood.

When she saw him the next evening she noticed what appeared to be specks of blood on his pants and that he was carrying chopsticks and a bloody ax.

Smith then allegedly told Rabb he killed a man and ate his brains in the Lakeview Cemetery while drinking sake, and grimly warned he intended to eat more people.

A month later, police found Angel Gonzalez's mutilated body in the vacant apartment on Brooks Street in Bridgeport where Smith had lived as a child.

Police later recovered the bloody ax and an empty bottle of sake in a stream bed near the Boston Avenue cemetery.

The defense's case rested on the testimony of Yale University psychiatrist Dr. Reena Kapoor, who testified that Smith had kept his lust for human flesh after his arrest, even offering to eat her.

Kapoor claimed Smith suffered from psychotic incidents since childhood and heard voices that told him to kill people.

She then said the voices ordered Smith to eat the victim's brain so they would get a better understanding of human behavior and the eyes so that they could see into the "spirit realm."

Kapoor added that Smith went to Subway after eating the man's body parts.

The report on Smith’s release said: “He denied experiencing cravings but stated that if they were to arise, he would reach out to his hospital and community supports and providers.”

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[–] [email protected] 206 points 1 year ago (86 children)

Some of y’all really need to figure out the difference between punishment and rehabilitation…

And which one actually works.

Stop stroking your hate boners and start advocating for real solutions. You don’t fix pain with more pain. All that does is exacerbate the cycle.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not about pain, at least not for me. If he was in the most comfortable psych hospital in the world, where they fluffed his pillows and shined his shoes, if he ate better and slept better than I do, that would be fine. But releasing him?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I mean, he's going to a group home. He's likely going to be carefully managed for the rest of his life. This is more of a reduced level of monitoring.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope that's true, but I've known group homes that are... somewhat lax. The state of mental health care (and funding) in this country does not inspire hope regarding his monitoring.

I suppose we just have to hope that he's not lying about not having urges. As someone with mental illness, I've lied my socks off to avoid the psych ward before.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

At least in my state, mental health group homes vary widely by supervision level. Some allow you to come and go like it’s a private home, others are under lock and key.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

He's likely going to be carefully managed for the rest of his life

Let's fucking hope

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The problem is we don't care enough to have psych facilities like that. Which is why we have an entire wing of the emergency department at my hospital dedicated to holding people who are doing nothing but waiting for a bed at one of the trash facilities we actually do bother to provide. No real treatment in the emergency department except meds, but also not safe enough to send them home. Scary that there's somebody now who needs the bed in that facility more than this guy does.

I'll say I'm proud of this country the day we provide good, comfortable lifelong treatment facilities for people like this, alongside quality rest homes for our elderly. We have the resources to do it, and the fact that we don't is an absolute indictment of our society.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem is our justice system only focuses on the punishment part. Rehabilitation is either non-existent for most inmates or completely inadequate. The likelihood of this man being mentally stable enough to be safely reintegrated into public life is extremely small.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

He didn't go to prison though, he went to a pysch ward, seems like exactly the kind of thing you'd be advocating for.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He ate a man’s brains and eye balls.

Eww gross.

He went to subway after eating the man’s body parts.

EWWWWW! GROSS!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

We have crab juice or mountain dew

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (16 children)

The American punitive view vs. a rehabilitative one is terrifyingly real in these comments. It was an awful awful thing that happened, and he should be monitored the rest of his life, but if it is determined by medical professionals (a.k.a. not you) then he deserves to lead a full life, and have the opportunity to contribute to a society that he caused harm too instead of being a cost to taxpayers everywhere for the rest of his life, while he is medicated and able to rejoin society, that harms everyone even more in the long run.

This man should have had the health supports he needed before this ever happened, likely something exacerbated by the US medical system.

Also to dispel some common myths:

  • Due to legal fees, it costs significantly MORE to sentence someone to death in the US (sidenote, also one of the few 1st world countries still conducting the backwards barbaric practice), than the cost of them continuing to serve life in prison; it is not the "cheap" option.
  • Insanity pleas on average 1) yield longer sentences in mental facilities than similar cases where there was no insanity plea, b) if not successful in getting an insanity sentence yield longer jail sentences on average. From a criminal judicial standpoint, there is very rarely any advantage to pleading insanity, and it's even rarer still that someone actually gets it when they were not in fact insane. The testing, and level of evidence needed far exceeds what you can gather from a casual read and comment online. It is a hugely rare thing legally, we just tend to hear about them as they're represented in the media at disproportionate rates compared to standard trials.

To all my American friends, not shitting on you, you're a wonderful country, of largely wonderful people, but with some bad bad bad policies that I hope will improve in coming years.

Love,

Your hat.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

The onion article writes itself

"Dude who ate someone's brain is out in the streets after saying 'I won't do it again' enough times"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the antipsychotics are working, then fine. This dude was truly cracked at the time to both admit it to people and offer to eat his doctors.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Taking the story at face value, imagine how horrible you'd feel knowing what you'd done. I really hope they are doing better now but fuck having those memories.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any stats on the recidivism rate for the mentally ill who are treated and cleared by the Psychiatric Security Review Board, versus convicts who serve conventional terms?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Recidivism for offenders that simply serve a prison sentence as opposed to getting actual treatment is much, much higher.

I’m not sure of the exact stats in this situation, but I know domestic abusers that simply go to prison are some ~230% (give or take a couple tens, I can’t remember off the top of my head) more likely to reoffend than those who are actually treated.

Again, idk the stats for this case, but you will find that those who are simply punished rather than treated have higher recidivism rates across the board.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

the voices ordered Smith to eat the victim's brain so they would get a better understanding of human behavior and the eyes so that they could see into the "spirit realm."

"Disassembly reveals useful pathways"...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you casually ask to eat your therapist? 🙃

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

i hope the guy is truly rehabilitated and is getting the ongoing treatment he needs.

but lets be honest, id rather he not live on my street

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (15 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Dude should have never been released simply because we can't ever be sure he'll take his medication or adhere to treatment in the future. At some point, the safety of an individual and the public takes priority over turning them loose on the streets.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone else think the Sake part of the story is really weird too? Like, is that the preferred pairing with human flesh? Who makes that recommendation? A cannibal sommelier?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

never let a wendigo out once you have it caged

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking bizzare! Who the fuck is down voting this post ?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was tempted to. I always hate these posts. If he's healthy and doing well and observed, I'm glad he's out. Hopefully he benefits society.

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