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Teachers in England will have to tell parents if children question their gender (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Teachers will be forced to tell parents that their child is questioning their gender even if the young person objects under new guidance for schools in England, the equalities minister has indicated.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I love how people who aren't part of the community think they know what's best for the community. Fucking assholes, outing kids into what could be a potentially dangerous situation, depending on the parents views.

I'd love to out their deepest, most well kept secrets, see how they feel.

It's disgusting how all these 'protections' they put in place will do more harm than good. You can tell it's coming from an anti trans standpoint as they're trying to scare people into staying hidden.

Fuck the government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't blame the government. Name the people making these decisions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I blame them all. The idiots proposing this shit and the government agreeing it's a good idea. They're all morons.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My point is that "the government" isn't some black-box machine. The government is people. You can blame "the government" all you want, but it's the people pulling the levers who deserve the blame. They should be named.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can someone explain how/why the Brits appear to be turning into Texans?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We've imported the culture wars from the US.

There's a range of anti trans lobbyists in the UK that are US funded, and our government is hoping that if you scare people about migrants and trans people for long enough, we'll forget that it's actually the Tory party that is destroying the country and vote them back in.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a very right wing cabinet, mainly due to everybody else getting kicked out/ resigning. They are very likely to get kicked out themselves next year, but due to the fixed term parliament law they are basically untouchable until then, so they are getting as much shit done as they can before they get replaced.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

texan conservatives taken steps to force the laws and institutions to mitigate backlash against conservative beliefs, so they're less afraid to inflict their beliefs onto the generate population and conservatives around the world are taking note and applying it for themselves; this is one of those steps.

it works incredibly well here in texas and i'm so happy to be leaving it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys will be banning books like Florida next if you don't nip this fascist bullshit in the bud right now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The unfortunate truth is that the majority of the people who voted really did vote for this sort of government. For the past 1.5 decades.

The current opposition is like the Biden alternative. I don't have many hopes for them but we are at a stage where almost anything is better than this. The current government has been a clown show.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kids being unable to trust teachers here reminds me of being unable to trust teachers to stop anti-gay bullying due to Section 28.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I gave up teaching two years after moving to the UK, it's an absolute mess.

I can only imagine needing to fill out the "inform the parent" form and then immediately needing to fill out a safeguarding form (something you fill out any time you note anything like bruises, comments, out of sort actions, etc.). It's absolutely tragic.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh, more reasons for people to leave teaching.

Honestly, I think the only teachers I know that are still teachers today is because they're under the thumb of this system - specialised training that isn't much use elsewhere, so they have to stay and continue to work in increasingly impoverished conditions.

Any teachers reading this - I'm sorry for what you have to go through, and even as a childless individual, I am greatful for the sacrifices you're making to ensure the future of our society.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the a doesn't want to tell his parents for whatever reason yet, it should stay this way.
Honestly sounds like something straight out of Florida or parody news websites lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Contact information for the person responsible

https://members.parliament.uk/member/4597/contact

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I was questioning the gender of my teachers all the time but they did not go whining to my parents about it. Ill give them that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

French teachers when girls forget the e at the end of adjectives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully, the rest of the EU holds the line on this, so that when the British come crawling back in a few years with their economy in tatters, they're forced to roll back all of this barbaric Tory social legislation as a condition of readmittance.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

My dream Brexit outcome is that Scotland eventually gets a second referendum and leaves, then joins the EU by itself, then vetoes the rest of the UK when it tries to rejoin.

I'm not Scottish and this outcome would kind of fuck me over personally as well, but it would be hilarious and we'd fully deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why would they not tell their parents? Genuine question from someone out of the loop. If my kid was questioning I would prefer I know, right? The school has the kid for the majority of their time awake during the school year. This makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Because bigots have literally tortured their kids over being queer forever. Kids who don't feel safe coming out at home usually have a good reason from fear of abuse to becoming homeless.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because there are deeply bigoted parents that would hit their child if they found out. Maybe try to see it from their viewpoint?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

That's why I commented a question asking for rationale behind a different viewpoint. Thanks stranger, that makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine being a kid under constant surveillance. Boomers really are all helicopter parents if they vote shit like this through. That will fuck up their kids and grandkids big time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Bloomers are currently aged 57-75. It's Gen X (46-56yrs old) and Millenials (25-40yrs old) that currently have most of the kids in school. Agree with the rest of your comment though.

As a millennial with a child, I'm so glad my parents didn't have half the shit available to them that my generation has. Even in a lot of daycares the parents can watch the CCTV live of their child. Literally just sit there at work and watch their child.

And that's before you get into tracking when kids get phones.

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