Not really an answer to your question, just wanted to say intelligence isn't a one-dimensional thing. You can practically be a master on any one field but lack basic abilities in accomplishing what other people do every day. Or the other way around, you're not particularly good at one thing that's commonly attributed to intelligence, like chess or maths, but be highly intelligent or skilled in other things. And for me that includes social intelligence, being able to remember a lot of stuff, being handy or having a grasp for music, or anything. I think I'm alright in various things. But I regularly observe people being very good at something. Like scientists and I can barely read what the math even does. Or the lady at the bakery who remembers things about the personal lives of like >200 grandmas and which kind of bread they buy every week. In turn, I know like a 200 facts about Linux networking. But I couldn't do what she does, even if I tried.
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I know I'm not smart because I seem to have trouble retaining and/or recalling information. I'll understand the concepts then, but fuck me if I try to recall it months later. Also I remember things wrong, my partner (who has an excellent memory) calls me out on it all the time.
Intelligence is not easily quantifiable (dont you dare get me started on IQ) so its pointless to worry about how you stack up in one area. Ive met a genius nurse who cant spell restaurant without spell check. I know engineers who cant visualize a 2D drawing in to 3D space. I think im pretty smart, lots of conceptual thinking comes naturally to me but I hate chess. It doesnt make sense to me. I suggest thinking about what you are good at, rather than what you're not.
I tried to help my little cousins w math homework one time and had no idea wtf i was reading until i reread it twice or something.. theyre like 13..... math never been my strong suite really😅
There are different kinds of smart. A person can be quick and creative at something (math, mechanics, music, marketing ...), and less so at everything else.
If the something is -complicated-, then a lot of learning is needed, and a good qualified teacher will help you sort out what is really important to know. Chess is complicated, and you need to learn basic strategies of how to move and not get eaten alive. There are some books that can help with that. But a human teacher can get you there a lot faster. If you're really motivated but you're not remembering enough? it may not be your 'something' !
If you are smart, you know that you really aren't smart
I am wise and intelligent.
I have been always terrible in maths, and this deficit represent imho a major obstacle in getting a decent job these days.
There is so much I don't know, so when I do know something there's still someone who knows more than me.
Structurally I know how things should work, but sometimes trying to program it tho...
There are many types of cognition. I don't feel I know much more than how pieces move but certainly I look at the board and possibilities. Some of it is spacial modeling and some is a sort of logical progression. That being said people that have particular chess gambits memorized. well that is just memorization. There is also talent and such to consider. That being said when you personally know somone who is good at some particular thing. Its sensible to follow their lead. I know folks who I would take their medical advice above others and others where I trust their economic viewpoints and others for their scientific.
No idea, I'm just here to chill with da boyz
There are very different kinds of "smartness". The currently favored (by most modern societies) kind weighs logical and structured thinking very heavily, that doesnt mean someone "isnt smart" if they dont possess those qualities. Also, chess does not even rely on the commonly referred to "smartness" that much. The most important aspects are long term memory ( for remembering situations from games and acting accordingly)and thousands of hours of practice.
I was told smarter people are more likely to be cursed with things that count as mental illness.
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The book 'Starship Troopers' is a lot different from the movie.
In the book the Bugs have space ships and other tech, so it's obvious that their leadership in intelligent. The question is whether the soldiers in the field are thinking for themselves or just genetically programmed to fight.
The narrator opines that if the Bug can kill you, that makes it smarter than you.
Robert A. Heinlein was a fascist.
Do you have any proof?
I remember an epigraph of one his books saying smthg like "To Sergeant whatever who took us as childs and made us men". That's enough for me
So, you have no evidence that he was a Fascist. You have an opinion.
It's very important that you learn that you having an opinion about a fact doesn't change the fact.
Being fascist is expressing fascist ideas, or am I missing something ?
I also know how chess pieces move, other than the rare en passant, but will lose to anyone willing to challenge me and I don't think I could get much better than mediocre with any amount of practice. However, I got full marks on a Mensa IQ test so I'd say I'm intellingent in a way but with my mild autism, likely ADHD and lack of practical skills, it's hard to tell. I have done lots of stupid decisions IRL, often repeatedly.
Would I say I'm "smart"? Depends. Intelligent, probably. Wise, hell no.
The answer to the "chess" thing is "yes, you will get better if you play it for long enough". It's a lot about pattern recognition and the things you've seen in the past. There are certain rules to follow that help a lot - but someone needs to teach them to you first. It's like saying "I suck at crosswords, I will never be good at them" - yes you will, with enough done you'll start to see repeating "crossword words" that keep being used over and over.
Edit: also for the life thing - it's the difference between wisdom and intelligence.
You're probably right. My biggest flaw is that I fail to notice forks, guarded pieces and other obvious patterns, and don't know any nuances in the general strategy other than "exposed king bad, having more pieces good, K>Q>R>N>B>P".
N and B are equal and loss of one depends on the current situation of the board :d
Forks and all of that comes with playing the game. It also comes from the easiest / most approachable way to play chess - puzzles. So far so, that it's insanely popular on Facebook, where some guy pastes an amazing move from the past and a butt-ton of people stop and think about it.
Also, forks and stuff is often overkill. You can get to like 1200 rating by knowing like 4 - 5 moves in the start. Most games are decided by someone making a huge mistake. And in the first matches, that guy will probably be you. But then suddenly you'll notice a huge fuckup and win a game over it. And then the fuckup will be slightly smaller, and smaller, and smaller.
But yah, chess isn't all intelligence, it is a lot of practice and study.
You have to study strategies, that's how people get good. You won't be a match for anyone read.
I suck at maths or anything that has to do with numbers. But besides that, so many do say I’m intelligent. Though tbh, I’m far from it lol, there’s so much I need to learn about and the list just keeps building up so I guess it ain’t a bad thing after all. It’s just I’m always willing to open my eyes to new things.