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[–] [email protected] 171 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t wait to not be able to order one.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Love the fact community is already mocking the fact they have distribution issues. While I had Twitter account their PR team was going full force demonstrating how it can be used and promoting projects that use it... all the while it's out of stock everywhere, constantly. I would have number of sites "notify" me when they are back in stock, only to be sold out seconds after. Luckily kind person shared a site which tracks where it can be purchased and for what amount but the mere fact such a tool has to exist just shows there's a serious problem.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Doesn't sound like the 'cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on' that the original Pi used to be. It is not as cheap and a power hungry beast, still small, though. More and more like a PC and less and less a small cheap embedded platform. For some people it is a plus (I guess for most people here), for some not so much.

I tend to build my projects on Raspberry Pi Pico now, but sometimes I would need something more powerful and Raspberry Pi 5 will be too much.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The project goal has never been a 'cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on'. The whole point of the project is to build a small cheap PC to give away to school children to increase computer literacy, while making it attractive enough for normal people to buy to fund the charity side

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't the Pi 3B still available for that kind of job?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you can find a new one. They are $45+ on ebay used. None of the usual US sellers has any.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I just noticed on rpilocator that there are a couple US sellers who have RPi4-1GB boards in stock for $35. I might have to try and snag one since my Kodi device has been acting up lately.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I'd call 5 watts "power hungry."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Zero and zero 2 have decent stock anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I’ve used pine64 boards for this. They have a few more options and are always available.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can buy beelink small form factor pcs from Amazon for around $150 with cases and power supplies included.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But...he said that it's not as cheap as it used to be and too power hungry and you propose an 150$ PC?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m agreeing with them. By the time you buy the Pi 5, and all the add-ons you need, it’s going to rival these SFF systems with full x86 Intel chips with efficiency cores.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sold by a scalper near you five seconds after it's sold out at launch

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was able to get rpi3bs easy...4 drops...never saw one that wasn't overpriced scalped shit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4s were pretty easy to find pre 2020, I bought one at launch and 2 more before the pandemic hit and I never paid more than MSRP for any of them.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (8 children)

At $80 a pop, might get more oomph from an older optiplex if electricity cost isn’t too big of a concern?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That display out will be hard to match with an old optiplex or laptop, but I agree, the pricing is getting less absurdly low and more just moderately low.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be fair, I'm guessing the majority of Pi's are used headless anyway. Plus even the older Optiplexes have DVI, which is just HDMI without the audio or fancy stuff like ARC. Won't be getting 4K or anything, but still a very good video output and IMO adequate for almost all use cases.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm betting a decent amount of them are used as media PCs. The x265 decoding, 4kx60hz output, 2x speed ram and better wifi are much appreciated for that application.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not to mention a used PC is upgradable and can run proxmox

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
IoT Internet of Things for device controllers
NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
PoE Power over Ethernet
RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SBC Single-Board Computer
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

8 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 9 acronyms.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you friendly robot :) I couldn't stop assuming PoE meant Pillars of Eternity! 😅

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Since switching my server to an x86 based platform, I'm not jumping back to arm any time soon. Maybe some day

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for my RISC-V boards. Fuck this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Don't go for a Pi. They don't run stock Linux anyway.

I would get a board from pine64. There are also plenty of other options that are cheaper

Used mini PCs are also an option

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess he means that raspberry pi doesn't run a mainline kernel

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Precisely. You can't just boot up any arm image

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They can, just need correct drivers. We have mainline Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu for them now.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming to a scalper near you!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been eyeing an Orange Pi 5+ for my RPi4 upgrade


think I may stick with that route, but glad to see RPi putting out another model.

My experience with RPis over the years was that the multimedia was way better supported than alternatives, but for self hosting that's not really relevant for me (headless, and don't really care about transcoding).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder why they didn’t add usb-c

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Power is USB-C, but the ports aren't because most PC accessories are still USB-A

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Will it be able to run Jellyfin with 4K content?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I’m running Emby with 4k content from an Odroid HC-2. If you have a 4k TV it should support the H.265 codec without transcoding so the resources for sending videos is low.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never got over social-media-a**hole-gate.

Out of curiosity is there an equivalent SBC to this new 5 model out there?

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