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[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I am genuinely disgusted at how this could even happen like this. He got the popular vote? By 5 million?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago

Oh its worse then that.

Just winning would be bad, but with the popular vote that is a mandate.

Having a clear mandate would be very bad but the house/senate would both need to go red to be able to execute the sort of mandate promised. You know that thing that also happened.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's going to take awhile to correctly process this

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If George Clooney was the democratic nominee, he would have won easily.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Many terrible things are coming, but my heart is aching for Ukraine this morning...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago

And Gaza and Lebanon.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

This is my biggest fear as well.

We in Europe need to focus on our own security and military future without being to dependant on our unstable partner overseas.
He won fair and square, which means that this was not just some fluke. It can and probably will happen again in the future.

If the GOP asks Ukraine to surrender what they have lost, I hope both Zelensky and we as Europe collectively give him a fat middle finger in return.
Russia must lose!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And Palestine. Shit is going to get uglier than it was already.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Palestine will just be more Israel in a couple years. And the Palestinians that couldn't get out to somewhere else will be dead.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

My first thought was for Ukraine. I don't want to live in this timeline any more.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Congratulations America! Corruption, greed and hate just won.

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[–] [email protected] 294 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (42 children)

Yeah, I'm giving up after this.

The Democratic party just can't deal with the stupidity and racism that is the American population.

I mean for fucks sake, Black and Latino voters increased their votes for Trump this time around.

Just time to hang up the hat and let America burn.

Also:

Biden got 81,282,916 votes

Harris got 66,153,556 votes

Americans didn't even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again. Yeah, there's no saving this democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

I volunteered at county Dem HQ and was tasked with texting Dem voters who hadn't shown up at the polls by noon. Each page had maybe 50 names on it. And only 3 or 4 voters typically voted. It was a disaster.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Americans didn’t even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again.>

Absolutely. Trump did not have a significant bump in votes, 10 million voters did not turn out, or so early figures show. Of them, it's largely white suburban males. Apathy leads to populism. Dr. King had something to say about white liberals...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Sure but at the same time Blacks and Latinos made significant bumps to the Trump vote here too. I would have to imagine that Dr. Kind would have some choice words for them too.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Yeah I have zero fucks left. I am done with this bullshit. I canvassed for the first and last time this election as it's quite clear it did jack shit. I'm withdrawing from being a concerned citizen. The idiots voting for this shit can have it. I'm going full libertarian in my lifestyle. My family matters and nothing else. I am truly sorry for those who didn't vote for this and will suffer greatly. I just can't do it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Don't forget they are going to intentionally force us back to coal and oil, and stifle all transitions to cleaner energy. So really how bad could it be

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, the world is pretty fucked here. We're at a tipping point for climate disaster.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe a lot of Democrats also dislike women in power and black people. Maybe the American people, regardless of the party they say they support, are still very conservative. This is not an unpopular opinion outside the USA.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Yes. That is the ultimate conclusion for me as well. The American people voted for racism and sexism, because they are racist and sexist. America can’t do better because this is the best we have. Trump represents conservatives. It’s really confusing because his actions aren’t conservative… but here we are.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Nah. Trump got fewer votes (when you account for the ~4% population growth since the 2020 election) than last time, while Dems lost a fuckton of votes, compared to 2020.

Trump won, both the election, and the popular vote, not because he got Dems to vote for him, but because a dozen million Dems decided not to vote at all.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Dean Phillips would have won

Hell, I think even Witmer would have won

We're a racist country, to a lesser degree sexist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I'm not sure that we are more racist than sexist. We had a black president, who even got elected to 2 terms. We have yet to have a woman.

Either way, awful.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

stolen election, fake news, time to throw a hissy fit and storm the capital and then blame the feds like a pussy… I mean is there any other way to handle this?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just need to convince the VP not to certify the results.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Easier. Write a executive order that bans convicted felons from the office if the conviction involved truthfulness.

It should be illegal anyway but it just isn't.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Whatever you do, don't blame voters though. The only people who could possibly be at fault here are Democrats. Because voters are perfect little angels. Who can blame them for their strong desire for fascism? That's just human nature after all

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (60 children)

I get it, everyone is upset that Trump won (including myself). But the voters are not solely to blame here.

Democrats put forward a candidate who lost to fascism. What does that say about your policies, your messaging, how the voters feel about you when you tell them "You have to vote for me because I'm not the other guy!"

Y'all need to accept that 1. The Democrats can grasp defeat from the jaws of victory like no one else, and 2. The American people want change, they want progress, they have had enough of the status quo system that isn't working for them anymore.

They spent the last four years living under Biden, and despite all the screeching about how well the economy was doing, Americans don't feel it. And instead of addressing that, or doing anything about it, Biden and the Democrat establishment would just point the finger at Republicans and say, "No, no, they're worse, trust us, they're worse, they're worse."

They've spent a year telling Americans, despite everything they're seeing and hearing from Palestine, that Israel needs this unconditional support, while the world votes to hold Israel accountable and the US vetos it, under a Democrat administration. Multiple times, while refusing to let any Palestinians on stage at the DNC to speak, but parading Republican after Republican because they finished licking Trump's ass and decided to give Kamala's a go. Arab and Muslim Americans organized a protest vote, over 100,000 strong in Michigan alone (which she's projected to lose, btw), and the Democrats sent Bill Clinton to lecture them on how Israel is only doing what's necessary to defend themselves.

So we've had four years of milquetoast progress at best from a candidate the Democrat's constituency already didn't like. He dropped out but didn't leave enough time for a new primary, so the Democrat Party pushed Kamala on us, and then had her run on a centrist, return-to-the-status-quo platform, while refusing to take any meaningful stand on Palestine, with their biggest policy being, "Hey, you have to vote for us because we're not fascist."

If the American people, people in general, don't feel like they're being represented, why would the feel like voting? This is a failure on the Democrats, 100%, for running platform policies and candidates that don't drive people to the polls. Say what you want about Trump, and there's plenty to say about the absolute piece of shit of a human being he is.

But he makes his voters feel listened to and heard, and Democrats may consider it regression, but Republicans get their policies done, and they show progress to their constituents. Democrats get nothing done, usually due to Republican fuckery, but the Republicans don't face similar fuckery, so the average voter doesn't care, they just see one wide getting their agenda accomplished and the other not.

So now I pose this question to you, and I'm genuinely asking, this isn't an "I gotcha, I am so smart!"

If a person doesn't feel represented by their government regardless of who's in power, and your life doesn't drastically improve under either candidate, well... What difference does it make which form of government is fucking you over?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Every day I look back at one day I had in 2016 when I felt like killing myself and wonder why I didn't just fucking do it.

I'm sure in ten years, I'll look back on this and... wish I had done it now.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

Don't do it. We're going to need to help each other through what's coming, and I'll absolutely fight for your rights, whoever you are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

That's just what they want you to do. It's much better to take this opportunity to fight the fascists.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don't give up, just don't be nice to republicans. And make sure to harass the next administration for our rights. Fucking racist rapist criminals.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I am sure that if Trump has his way, you will no longer have rights to fight for. It comes to a point where you can no longer just fight the symptoms, you need to fight the disease. Americans just voted for the disease.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Well, good news I guess, with the way the climate is gonna go now you won't be living long at all.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've never agreed with the professor more than I do now. At least he actually has the option!

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