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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Fucking YouTube is at it again, and you know what? I think Susan make a better YouTube CEO than the current retarded CEO, Luckily Revanced is a thing hopefully they patch it if it come true

[–] [email protected] 55 points 13 hours ago

YouTube/Google and hiding data from the end-user, name a better duo.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Next What???? Removing Title, Only Thumbnail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 35 minutes ago

Removing the homepage entirely, replacing the entire UI with the shorts-style format of "view video right now, tap button to see next/previous video". If you want a specific video, you must search for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Gemini Ai makes up a title for you.

That's as cursed as I can make it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

The endgame will be Gemini generating videos based on the information they've harvested off you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

The title will be text to speech on mouse over.
The future is here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Remove the user generated videos. Only title, videoads and comments allowed.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It's currently a race-to-the-bottom in big IT & tech, where they don't look how they get you to like them but how much they can get away with, without repelling most of their userbase.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago

In this case YouTube can do literally anything they want due to the lack of real alternatives. Hosting videos for free, for anyone (and any number of viewers) to watch, for free, is rather predictably not a very profitable business model. If you want to see what it takes to actually be profitable with such a model, look at the average free porn site. Extremely intrusive ads everywhere. If you don't want to pay, and ads are the only revenue, advertisers are the customer, not you.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

As someone who tries to regularly post videos on YouTube I think this would help me, since I'm sure many people (including me, unfortunately) avoid low view count videos.

But I can absolutely understand why you wouldn't want it hidden. I'm sure this will lead to major misinformation clickbaiting (as if that isn't already a problem!), but I believe that the view count will still be visible on the view page.

Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

Edit: I do want to clarify that I think hiding the date it was posted is just strange and would probably only lead to problems

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

I am pretty confident in guessing that they are not doing it for selfless reasons. Imo the reason is that the less information they give the user, the more you are beholden to the algorithm choosing for you.

But depending how they hide it it actually might not just be users, but also companies that e.g. buy ads from them. The less information they get, the more they need to trust whatever metric google offers them

[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t like this idea for the opposite reason. I'm one of the people who are suspicious of videos with millions of views since most of them look manufactured. We all use view counts to gauge if a video is something we’re after, probably in more ways than we can come up with.

If it gives you any encouragement - I’m not discouraged by view counts. I know I like niche stuff and give small channels a try. It’s a chance at having more genuine interaction. As long as a video is not off-putting due to bad diction or very bad production then I’m not going to back out and see what it is about. This can work to your advantage too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense. Youtube has mixed more and more small channels with low views into my feed for a couple of months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've watched a couple of those, they were really good.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Who makes these retarded decisions?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I've encountered so many AI generated videos that now I have to depend on view count since they removed dislike. And even view count doesn't work as well because people click on just to see why there are high view counts, turns out it's an AI video with high view count. Absolutely terrible practice. Youtube knows, they're not stopping

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

YouTube har made everyone using AI in their video declare it, but in not sure it matters when it comes to being pushed out.

Source: I was playing around with autogenerating YouTube shorts, YouTube did not make it easy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Alright now how do I filter out that A.I content. Chances are if you search up a tech question, there's an A.I video made from scraping websites and bot TTS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't think you can. But I know YouTube could

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Hmm at a glance I dont see a major issue here, my concern would be that I dont click on vids with shit numbers so they are now on a more equal footing.

But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.

Is my mental health really something I want Google managing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I don't mind seeing vids with small numbers (many are genuinely cool) but I avoid 500k and above (except music) because the mainstream is mostly clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

I don't know what's up with the algorithm pushing these lately. If it's a video with 4 views from a channel with no subscribers I'm probably not interested in it. Sometimes they have a good thumbnail/title so I give them a chance but 9/10 times it's terrible. Also often extremely right wing for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

Wouldn’t the YouTube creator need to see views for ad revenue? Are they removing them for viewers or creators too?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In 5 years:

Youtube tests small ads in the top corner during video playback.

In 10 years:

Youtube tests small increase in size of well established corner ads.

In 15 years:

Youtube graciously allows video playback inbetween ads

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

In 20 years, "YouTube was an online video sharing platform...."

I doubt they can make it to the next 20 years, the way they are controlling everything.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago

In 20 years:

Users can no longer upload and YouTube becomes just a CDN for Adsense.

(and the only way to watch old videos is through the Internet Archive)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We can sell 80 percent of the screen before inducing seizures!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

86% if you disregard the mild ones!

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago

sounds like another job for the return youtube dislikes guy

[–] [email protected] 257 points 1 day ago (10 children)

It’s already really difficult to engage with the content you want to see, but now they’re also taking away the only immediately noticeable metric of a successful video? Genuinely just why

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Personally I find the highest viewed videos on YT to be the absolute shittiest ones.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, that’s kinda the problem too

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

They want to decide what you like and don't like. You WILL watch what THEY show you.

[–] [email protected] 241 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They removed the star system a long time ago. They removed the down votes again a few years back.

They want their algorithm to be the only thing that decides whether you watch a video or not.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 day ago (13 children)

That'll work excellent for all those people trying to find tutorial videos for 'XYZ' when you have no verification data to determine whether it's even a legit tutorial.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago

Return youtube view counts, coming soon

[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 day ago (2 children)

YT Exec - /rips massive line of coke off Intern's ass/ - "Remove View Count"

YT Engineer - "But Sir, users will hate that. It will actively make the user experience worse"

YT Exec - "That's the goddamn point!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

This is inane but damn if it didn’t give me a good laugh :D

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Intern - "You could at least give me reacharound while you're doing that"

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