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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I just need anyone who thinks about skipping voting to "Save Palestine" to refer to this graph

Btw, there's a third choice.. it's pulling the Jill Stein lever.

The Jill Stein Lever is made of rubber and not actually connected to anything, so pulling it will accomplish two things "Jack" and "Shit"

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Trump is 100x worse. Liberals might be in bed with conservatives on 90% of issues, but fascists actually want to use the military against us.

I upset people when I reject the idea that we are voting to save democracy because I believe the US's two party system is an insult to every ideal that democracy stands for, but I am still voting for Harris. Vote to save our country from fascism. Vote to keep your friends and family from being rounded up for supporting Healthcare for all.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (34 children)

The idea that not voting is some form of protest that has material consequences for the ruling class is ahistorical. It took centuries of struggle to attain universal suffrage. The people in power are perfectly happy to have only a small fraction of the demos exerting any political power at all; in fact this is how most civilizations have functioned for the past few thousand years.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (93 children)

im convinced at this point that the "don't vote or you support genocide" thing is a russian troll campaign

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It's the same in my Eastern European country - Russians run two troll campaigns:

  • to disenfranchise any pro-democratic voters, with slogans like "all candidates are shit and corrupt, you should hate them, politics, and the whole democratic process"

  • to boost nationalist, far-right, anti-establishment parties - there are several of them to cast a wider net over the electorate, and they can assemble together to run their always pro-Russian politics after getting in Parliament

It's the dame playbook everywhere they care to get results and undermine their enemies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty strong clues that it’s organized bullshit propaganda.

  • negative against democrats while never mentioning republicans
  • illogical since Trump is worse on the issue
  • fails to address voting system issues that make 3rd party useless
  • supporters rarely engage in real discussions and just repeat insulting slogans
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

supporters rarely engage in real discussions and just repeat insulting slogans

To be fair, with a stance so immensely stupid, there isn't much else to say.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It's kind of obvious

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Funny how the people who sit on the fence always seem to parrot the current claims right wing media is making

I don't actually believe a lot of these people are undecided

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago (66 children)

I knew all these single issue fake leftists were full of shit when it was revealed that Trump has been sabotaging peace talks and they weren't immediately outraged by that revelation.

Nah, they all have a political objective, and it doesn't involve peace in the middle east. Their objective is to use genocide as a political wedge to divide the left and get Trump elected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's funny how people who "hate both parties" only ever wanna criticize the Left

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're dealing with people who think the best way to send a message is to hurt more people and destroy democratic institutions.

They watched the Titanic and thought the people losing their shit and dragging everyone down with them was a good play in a crisis.

At least if the ship goes down the rich quarters will be below water too! That way they'll learn to treat us better next time.

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